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This is the perfect soda. All the flavor, with no drugs.
I don’t know what soda as caffeine to begin with.
Almost every cola has caffeine as a given
Coca-cola famously tried to sell bottled tap water in the UK as Dasani, but they abandoned it after they were very quickly exposed and ridiculed.

alt: illustration of a can labeled “diet double dew”. it also says “half the sugar[,] half the caffeine of double dew”. “dew the math!”
Half of a double? There might be a less verbose term for that.
that's the joke!
I’m pretty sensitive to caffeine but I like soda, so I drink this. Mostly water and decaf coffee, though.
Ohhh that reminds me I need to get some decaf. Nice.
It has a use. Tasty fizzy drink with basically no calories, and caffeine fucks with my cannabis high. I get Canadian store brands tho.
I’m kinda pissed the Coca Cola recipe that was recently reverse engineered was the sugar version instead of zero.
I’m guessing zero is a lot harder, but maybe that guy who did it needs a new objective
LabCoatz for those interested but he never said anything about zero sugar that I can recall so when it comes to difficulty I have no idea since I’m not a chemist.
what turned out to be the secret ingredient in the end?
For the mystery “natural flavours,” mass spectrometry was used. He got the essential oils and their quantities down: lemon oil, lime oil, tea tree oil, cinnamon oil, nutmeg oil, orange oil, coriander oil, and a natural pine–like flavour called fenchol.
Was still missing coca. Then he realised they were basically tea leaves and the mystery flavour was actually tannins, which are non-volatile, so using mass spectrometry tannins won’t show up. He found wine tannins are commercially sold in a water–soluble powder form, and this was the key pretty much.
This mix then had to be heated to blend/mature the essential oils, and then left to sit for 24 hours before being used in the final recipe to exact match the flavour profile.
thats amazing!
Quantity of sugar is on the label, chemical replacements are not
Smoking a joint while drinking coffee this very moment 😅
I envy you it reminds me of my childhood. I’m currently enjoying a cider taking a break in from the heat doing yardwork.
Must’ve been an interesting childhood…
Sorry I should have quantified that younger than 30 to me was my childhood lol. I didn’t clean up until I had kids.
Think it’s ironic you find cider over a joint cleaning up. To each their own.
One cider does not a drunk make but one joint will get me stoned. 3 drinks a week at this point compared to a joint or 3 a day. Was a pretty big shift.
Lucky! The combination gives me anxiety attacks these days. I can have one or the other but not both idk why.
That’s a bummer. Though I an curious, flower or concentrates?
For the past 2 years I’ve been using concentrates via 510 carts in Canada, unscented/no flavour additives. Before that I used a dry vape with cheaper pre-ground flower, but short battery life and maintenance got annoying plus dosage control is worse. Smoked before legalisation.
I love the no fuss delivery of concentrates, but found they randomly would cause me to have anxiety or paranoia. Went back to joints and haven’t had an issue since.
It’s the same experience no matter how I consume it personally but we’re all different. I’m just an anxious person in general.
Uses:
- Pregnant women who would like a sugar-free cola beverage but can’t consume large amounts of caffeine.
- People with anxiety, insomnia, or other conditions that are worsened by caffeine who would like a sugar-free cola beverage.
- Anyone who would like a sugar-free cola beverage without caffeine?
Mind your own and let people enjoy their lives (and their sugar-free cola beverages).
Can is full of water
Yes, but no. In this fucked up world some zeros are bigger than others.
In the 80s, they called this Caffeine Free diet Coke and it was even free of kryptonite.

All that really changed is that “zero” is now more catchy than “diet”.
Diet coke retains the “new coke” recipe but with aspartame whereas coke zero is the “classic coke” recipe just with ace k and aspartame
I think, idk what I’m talking about I just like coca cola (the drink, not the company)
I think they only put aspartame in Diet Coke but I could be wrong
This somehow implies Kryptonite is made of/has caffeine on its composition.
Isn’t there a difference been “diet” and “zero”? Like doesn’t one use aspartame and the other use a different “fake” sweetener?
So up until recently I thought the same. I thought “Zero Sugar” used sucralose (Splenda) and diet used aspartame. Compared them at the store and Discovered that both Mountain Dew zero sugar and diet mountain dew are sweetened with the same fake sweetener, aspartame. The two drinks taste different to me. Maybe other brands do use different sweeteners but not Pepsi it seems.
Typically, zero sugar versions include aspartame AND acesulfame K to improve the artificial sweetener flavor, where diet versions only contain aspartame.
TIL. Thanks!
Coca cola’nt
The “zero sugar” usually means they replace the sugar with something worse (that’s often also a laxative).
Is there any actual evidence that artificial sweeteners are less healthy than sugar? Sugar in drinks contributes significantly to obesity, which in turn significantly increases the risk for a lot of health problems.
I mean, there’s still the cola taste?
And dissolved gas
Rather not.
Doesn’t the USA use the word “calories” sometimes for kilocalories in food? So they divide the actual amount of calories by 1000. They also round certain things down, so that when they say “zero calories”, the can can actually have “3600 calories”?
kCal is a normal measurement in the UK too. I think anything being 4 kCal is probably negligible
4 kCal is a lot, around twice what a normal person needs per day. There is cal (small calorie) and Cal (large calorie), 1 Cal is 1000 cal or 1 kcal, 1 kCal would be 1000 kcal or 1 Mcal.
US FDA nutritional guidelines are based on 2,000 kilocalories a day. Europeans use kilojoules to the same effect.
I’m not sure any food in the USA uses a single calorie as a measurement of anything, because kilocalories make more sense in terms of units of scale in the human diet.
2000000 of anything sounds like a lot, so why not use prefixes to simplify?
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_food_energy_intake
According to the FAO, the average minimum daily energy requirement is approximately 8,400 kilojoules (2,000 kcal) per adult and 4,200 kilojoules (1,000 kcal) a child.[3] This data is presented in kilojoules, as most countries today use the SI unit kilojoules as their primary measurement for food energy intake,[4] with the exception of the USA,[5] Canada,[6] and the UK, which use kilocalories or both.
Yes, and then they have a whole thing about how under 5 kcal per serving can be rounded to zero because it’s negligible.
That’s why despite nobody on the planet having ever eaten a single tic tac at a time, the serving size is 1 tic tac. That’s only 4 kcal, so in the US they can call it a “calorie-free snack”
Rounding happens but no, you’ll find nothing when that kind of delta and it’ll be of zero consequences.
How did it taste?
Zero taste… Would be fitting
Ok
Honestly sometimes you just want something for hydration and has a bit of flavor don’t get me wrong I love water but you know sometimes you want something that safety without having to worry about calories or caffeine.












