• ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip
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    4 months ago

    I have no idea what must be wrong with someone’s eyes to call that dress white and gold. I mean it was always a stretch, the shadow/lens on top of it would have to be fucking BLUE to color it something similar.

    Even then it sounds stupid to go with that stretch of it being white and gold.

    My working theory is that people who saw it gold and white were exposed to lead.

    • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      4 months ago

      Shadows do generally overrepresent the color blue due to rayleigh scattering.

      Brains are also very quick to make assumptions and also very rigid about keeping them. The spinning dancer illusion, even when you already know you can and have seen it spinning both ways, it can be difficult to switch percepts.

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      4 months ago

      I was able, very briefly and not since, to see white and gold. Otherwise, I thought they were all crazy.

      • HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Same! I wish I could flit between like I can with most illusions. I’m just happy I know I saw it the other way once at least.

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          4 months ago

          It’s a weird type of illusion because even knowing the truth I can only see the white and gold, even when the lighting in the photo is adjusted to correct the overexposure my brain still reads it as white.

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      4 months ago

      I struggle to see it as black and blue, the white and gold interpretation has been the one I’ve almost always seen

      It’s not a stretch by any means

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          People view the image in different conditions. There’s so many factors involved. How bright your surroundings are, the make and size of your display device, how you perceive colors. Professionals perform color grading to avoid ambiguity like this in movies and such. Even your cultural expectations are hypothesized to change how you perceive the dress. (Eg. living in a desert environment can make you expect more yellow shading)

          There’s a similar illusion called the spinning dancer, where some people simply cannot see the image spinning one way or the other, while some can even switch between them. There’s more information in the dress to make an objective assessment, but if that information isn’t observed or obscured by the aforementioned reasons, it’s totally understandable. That’s what OP’s image is showing.

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          4 months ago

          Exactly lol. The rest of the scene had clear context that the image was overexposed and the white balance was too warm.

          Anyone that understands photography instantly understood what was happening in that image. I’ve had people try to fight me and tell me I’m wrong about that, but I’ve been a professional photographer/videographer for over 15 years. Quickly identifying a technical issue with an image like that is like breathing to me. I do it every single time I take a picture, so over 10,000 a day on average. All I can say is trust me. that image was overexposed and too warm, You can tell by the way it is in the background, and if you can’t see that then my words won’t help you.

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    4 months ago

    I can see the dark detail lines on the bottom of the dress really easy on the right but I can hardly see them at all on the left

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      4 months ago

      The mask overlaying the blue/black dress is lightening the color, causing the faint lines to become fainter, whereas the color is darkened on the masked area on the right, making the lines more distinct.

  • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
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    4 months ago

    Whitebalance comes to mind. Human eyes perceive the long rectangles’ tint as a base color, i.e. effectively neutral/white.

    So yeah, a blue dress in a yellowish light might look the same as a yellow dress in a bluish light.

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    4 months ago

    I don’t get it. Are they suppose to look similar with the filters applied? I see both dresses underneath the filter, very clearly. On the left is the same black and blue dress with a yellow filter effect, on the right is a yellow and white dress with a very clear blue filter on top.

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      4 months ago

      Yes, but the black and blue is actually exactly the same color as the yellow and white. They’re both the same color but one looks black/blue while the other looks white/yellow.

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      Yeah, you’re supposed to be able to see they’re different.

      The majority of the image being grey gives your brain the context required to realise each half is being tinted, so the white balance isn’t shifted like in the original “the dress” meme.

      This is more of a teardown of the illusion, than a demonstration. Looking at the bridge, it becomes clear that even though in the wider context you can see that the dresses are separate colours - when compared directly, they’re indistinguishable when tinted under the other’s major colour.

      Meaning that in the original “the dress” meme, how you perceived the dress’ colour depended greatly on how you perceived the tint/white balance in the surrounding areas of the photo (or how it was displayed on your device).

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        4 months ago

        I’ve seen the dress on multiple different types of screens and it has literally always looked blue and black.

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          I have a hypothesis that the dress just shows that lots more people have some weird issues with color. Not necessarily outright color blindness but moreso just general processing issues. But what do I know I’m just some asshole with photosensitivity.

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            The first couple times I saw the dress I saw it as white/gold. But after learning it was black/blue I stared at it and the colors seemed to shift in my brain. Now I can’t see the white/gold for the life of me.

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            Same, i simply cannot find any other explanation for it. Apparently a significant amount of the population cannot do white-balancing in their head.
            I have to assume they still experience the more physical white-balancing from light depleting the stuff in cone cells though: that thing where if you close one eye for a bit while looking at a sunny landscape, then open it and compare to the other eye by alternating which one you close; you’ll see the world tinted… i think it’s blue-green-ish and red-ish depending on the eye. Different tint depending on the eye, at least.

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            4 months ago

            So, when you say that you never understood how anyone saw gold are you

            a) Seeing an extremely washed out image and compensating
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            b) You are literally seeing a solid black and a navy blue i.e. there’s basically an insignificant amount of difference to your eye between the black part of the dress and #000000

            If it’s the former that might explain some of the difference in opinion, if it’s the latter then I have no idea how I would manage to interpret it as black.

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          4 months ago

          I could get my brain to see it differently by adjusting my phone’s brightness and viewing angle, but it wasn’t as voluntary as other illusions (like the Ben10 figure one)

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      4 months ago

      The point is that a black-and-blue dress, when brightly lit, will look eerily similar to a white-and-gold dress, when it’s in shade.

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    4 months ago

    Human vision is an illusion. It’s mostly inferred, and not representative of how the world actually looks, and I think that’s pretty cool and profound.

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      I mean it is a legit philosophical argument. One of my mother’s friends, whom I respect very much, told me she saw gold and white. So there is some merit to the conversation.