• rafoix@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    Police officers always seem to align with the interests of the capitalist (Epstein) class. What is it about that job that attracts so many people with contempt for the working class?

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      I’m stealing the phrase ‘Epstein class’, that’s a great way of explaining how horrific the rich and powerful are

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        I didn’t coin the term.

        Epstein class perfectly describes how they see themselves above laws and human decency. The world should never allow people to amass that much wealth.

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          What’s the alternative though? Let everyone be above the law? Because, that just sounds like a recipe for more trouble.

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            lol what’s the alternative? Tax the shit out of them. That amount of wealth is a danger to every democracy and the planet.

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      All of the answers before this are wrong. It’s their vein attempt to show us that they’re better than us. And that’s it. They’re so uncomfortable with themselves they they have to take you out on you. They believe they are part of the club.

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      The answer is quite mundane. I’ve a few friends in a (non-US) police force. The answer is that the rich/powerful are annoying as hell to go against.

      They either know the law, or pay someone to know it for them. They can make obviously illegal things legal on paper. They can also nitpick everything. E.g. spending £5K on lawyers to get out of a £100 fine, since they don’t want to get the points. Any procedural mistakes, or paperwork errors can kill a case, or at least drag it out for years.

      They also have contacts that can apply pressure. When their wife knows your boss’s, boss’s boss’s wife, they can make your life and career VERY uncomfortable.

      End result, most officers learn to pick their battles with the rich and powerful. They will make your life hard, and will get away without everything being perfect.

      In practice this can easily turn into taking the easy road. Even when the rich aren’t even technically in the right.

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        Plausible deniability is the name of the game, or as my lawyer relative would put it - “without the letter of the law (and hard evidence) on your side, don’t bother pursuing based on the spirit, no matter how blatant.”

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        As a blue collar guy, I think they’re too stupid to be blue collar workers.

        Edit- I had to do a 5-year apprenticeship, pass a state certification test and do continual education to maintain the certification.

        How long is the average American police academy and how challenging is it?

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      They’re uneducated but handed a living wage job and they are usually white men with narcissistic and psychopathic traits. The culture of entitlement and superiority within these ranks rewards the most narcissistic and psychopathic among them in the power dynamic within the fostered culture. This system then reinforces the racialized hierarchy within the self serving capitalist power structure and solidifies the tiers of oppression.

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      The rich give the violent dullards and chest-thumpers the imprint of honorability.

      The average cop imagines himself a Knight Protector of the Realm when he is, odds on, Barney Fife with a spouse who flinches.

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      Acab, obviously.

      But do you seriously not understand why cops follow orders from politicians and not citizens?

      We just ignored the part where we cared about who our politicians were.

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      The job description is literally to protect the powers that be and in exchange get your own authority to power-trip on too. It is fundamentally a reactionary job that should not exist, and neither should the system they protect.

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    This is exactly why there are non-profit bail funds to donate to in many communities. These funds frequently help cover these people that are the vanguard of democracy.

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    One of our local public transit advocates did nothing more than present at city council meetings. They ordered the security team to follow him everywhere in the building, to the bathroom, and his car.

    Even basic challenges to the people in your government is all too often met with straight up oppression tactics. He got them to stop by going to the press with it. Nothing else worked except more public pressure.

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    Years ago there was a sketch in France making parody of local news to denounce racism: Anchor: “A man shot at a group of Arabs arguing they were too loud. After investigations, the police concluded that indeed, the Arabs were too loud”.

    This news brought that immediately in my mind.

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    The party of “small government” . I’m sure he’s on the maga cancel culture concentration camp list now…brought to you by palantir because f you

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    This data center they’re hysterically agitating to build is going to take part of someone’s yard, someone’s entire house and property, and it will be right by a neighborhood making it’s stupid noise. And a lot of people outside of the town will have to deal with $400 per month electric bills, and they just can’t afford it.

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        These are the same material limitations that has driven renewables for decades, the US has an ideological dedication to absorbing the consequences of sustaining fossil fuel use anyway. The US is a for-profit imperial power with an owning class who sees anyone and everyone beneath them as exploitable and disposable. People in the US have tolerated the fossil fuel industry making their lives worse consistently for decades. Those same people will always adjust to worse conditions if they have to, and that owning class knows it.

        There is no breaking point, people have to choose to accept the consequences of resisting with the knowledge that these people will never stop unless forced to.

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        Lol no these companies are now building their own fossil fuel plants. Mortgage the future is always the plan. I’ve been in the power industry for 15 years and only since AI have I been asked to work on fossil fuel construction projects rather than decommission projects