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Some_Emo_Chick@lemmy.world to science@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago

Conservatives are dying at higher rates than liberals. A new study points to mistrust in medicine

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Conservatives are dying at higher rates than liberals. A new study points to mistrust in medicine

www.nature.com

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  • HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world
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    My mom died in November 2020 due to something like an upper respiratory infection. Antibiotics could have saved her, but she chose vitamins and colloidal silver. She’d been part of this christofascism cult since the 90s

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      I understand how you feel. I lost an uncle the same way during covid. He was a good man. He didn’t deserve to die.

      • teslekova@sh.itjust.works
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        Good people can be tricked, just like bad people. It’s a goddamn shame.

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    Both of my conservative parents died because they ignored their doctors and thought they knew better than professionals.

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    I think it needs to be said that the timing of this study is relevant. 30+ years ago, it may have said that liberals die more often for the same reason. The woo woo healing crystals hippy to MAHA pipeline is very real, and it has exactly the same cause.

    • Lyrl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      There weren’t disparities by political alignment 30 years ago, though.

      we draw on… the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent to Adult Health… which has tracked a nationally representative cohort of people who were adolescents in the 1990s… over the course of their lifetimes… includes a measure of political beliefs: self-reported liberal–conservative placement.
      We find that conservative Americans in this cohort, who were about as healthy as liberals in the early 2010s, experienced worsening health through the 2010s and higher mortality in the early 2020s. Roughly half of this new health gap is due to people changing their ideology over time, with new entrants to the conservative coalition being less healthy than new liberals. But another sizeable share is due to people who were already liberal or conservative diverging more in health over time…
      By the 2020s, conservatives were dying at significantly higher rates than liberals, with the gap concentrated in internal causes (for example, heart disease, cancer and stroke). The divide since 2020 is substantial: while only 0.2% of ‘very liberal’ respondents died of internal causes between 2020 and 2022, the probability for people who identified as ‘very conservative’ was 1.14 percentage points higher… This gap is not limited to deaths from COVID-19 and is not reducible to demographic or geographic differences between the groups, nor is it a pure function of ageing: previous cohorts’ death patterns in older data did not show a similar correlation between health and ideology before 2010.

    • Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      It was a big slap in the face when I learned (about a decade ago) the “hippes” were all bigots around here, using be a dead head as an excuse to be a drug addict.

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      It’s the same as conspiracy theorists. Gives you a belief you’re smarter than everyone else by knowing something they don’t. Which is why both tend to go against whatever the more prevalent political ideology is at the time.

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  • ohshit604@sh.itjust.works
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    Every comment here praising people dying is why I vote conservative, yall are crazy.

    • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Thanks for vouching for your place in my block list… Enjoy your short life! Bye!

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    • MartianRecon@lemmus.org
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      So you vote for the people who killed 14 million people by cutting USAID instead?

      Sounds about right.

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        Not American therefore no, I didn’t vote for those people, MAGA is crazy and I wouldn’t support that.

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      https://static.klipy.com/ii/4e7bea9f7a3371424e6c16ebc93252fe/40/6b/9LtEFtXkLNlPx.gif

    • comeonitsnotlike@feddit.nu
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      stfu Elon

      • ohshit604@sh.itjust.works
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        Almost as if this solidifies my previous statement, this is childish.

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          STFU ELON.

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    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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      It’s good to know your mind is so weak that you let internet vitriol convince you to vote for felons, rapists, and pedophiles who are currently robbing us blind and infringing the shit out of our rights.

      GO. FUCK. YOURSELF.

      Here’s some educational infromation for you, loser.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism#United_States

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        Last time I checked, Mark Carney had connections with Jeffrey Epstein which can be added to one of the many reasons why I didn’t vote for him, Pierre Poilievre on the other hand appears to have no records connecting him to Epstein.

        You Americans think the world revolves around you and your politics, every country has its own issues.

        Here is some education for yourself.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_terrorism

        • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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          Wow. Thanks for that left wing terrorism link. It was easy to get through because it was so, so much shorter than the right wing terrorism page.

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            You’re welcome.

    • derg@lemmy.world
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      Because conservatives would never wish anything bad to happen to lefties or anyone. Those lot are just full of love for the whole human race.

    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      Which of the two conservative parties do you usually go with?

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        Out of the 5 political parties offered to me, only 1 supports not criminalizing me for owning an “Assault Style Firearm”. Take a wild guess which country.

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          Of course your primary concern is which guns you can own.

          Simpleton.

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            I prefer not to be criminally charged for property I’ve legally purchased.

            You’re right, it’s quite simple.

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    Not fast enough.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      thats why the gop is obsessed with birthing more conservative: slash education funding, block sex ed, indoctrinate via manosphere, anti-abortions,etc.

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    Who has a higher birth rate? Libs or Conservatives?

    • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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      Birth rates tend to decrease with education…

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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      Conservatives.

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        But a lot of their kids will grow up and abandon the conservative bullshit.

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          It is nice to think that this would be a trend but when you start from a poor conservative family there are very good chances that you didn’t have education, emotional support and was surrounded by religious fanatics, consequently you will just propagate the circle.

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          And many will die young as a result of their parents’ beliefs.

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      Fortunately, concervatism is not a biologically inheritable trait.

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        Yeah … it’s learned from your parents

        • Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Some break free

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            Some

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      Conservatives love their teen pregnancy so… them.

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    Lol, lmao even

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    This is literally natural selection in action. Do not interfere. They want to do everything on their own, no problem. But no hypocrisy. Make your choice and stand by it come what may.

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      It’s not happening fast enough. I think they need help.

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      Nature gives no fucks about MAGAt feelings

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        Nature gives no fucks

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      Conservative types get balance by taking fascism to it’s genocidal end against non-conservatives

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      The problem is their choices often affect others

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        Why do I need a vaccine if we’ve got herd immunity? Betcha didnt think of that!

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      It’s not natural selection if they breed before dying, and I think the conservatives are still having more children earlier then liberals because they think God said condoms and abortion are evil.

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        If they don’t vaccinate their kids, then evolution is back on the table, and not just for the pathogens.

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    diabetes is liberal propaganda

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    I am Jack’s complete and total lack of surprise.

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    Oh, darn. Anyway…

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    Who would have thought that having people like RFK sowing distrust in medicine would lead to people dying.

  • TheOrcWhoWrites@lemmy.world
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    Let natural selection do its job.

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      They likely still only die after having kids, so natural selection has really no effect here.

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      Just sucks for their kids.

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        Most of their kids end up just like them. It’s matrix rules, until they’re out they may as well be agents.

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        The children would likely grow up to be uneducated conservatives too. It’s better this way for everyone involved.

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          Imagine publicly advocating for the deaths of children via preventable and gruesome illness.

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            Nah just advocating for the obvious consequences of their specific actions. Cause and effect.

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            I’m not advocating for it though?

            I’m simply stating the obvious.

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              You said it was better, but you didn’t say it should happen.

              Huh.

              Yep, that’s not advocating. Checks out. Carry on.

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