• Smaile@lemmy.ca
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    im sure these idiots just chalk it up to RAcIsM too, privileged just cant understand that some people actually don’t want your money and don’t want they’re country turned into a sideshow.

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      Most of these places wouldnt exist without tourism. We see alot of population decrease and eventual vanishing of rural villages. So unless your place is a strategic trade hub or has some remarkeable industry, it most likely only exists because of tourism. The problem however is in these times, tourists money doesnt go to locals but to big international hotel/restaurant/shopping/cruise companies.

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        Have you ever considered that some people are just ok with that? Sounds like a bunch of consumereristic nonsense to me

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      Eh, blaming tourists for your local capitalists reorienting the entire economy around them is missing the point. The productive response is to use your government to restrain the capitalists so tourists don’t have a negative effect.

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        Yep, this is a classic issue that could be solved if you have a government that cares about protecting you. You can control how many tourists you let in your nation.

        This mythical government could exist

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          Napal, Tibet, Tajikistan all limit tourists severely. Meanwhile I buy breakfast in Hanoi from between <1USD and 15 depending if I go to a place that serves locals or tourists. In places where there’s competition, I can pay like 2-10USD a night for a bunk to an entire apartment. In places where the local capitalists use the local government to increase their profits at the expense of the workers, I generally avoid because fuck that.

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        Tell that to a lot of 3rd worlder who can’t afford local prices anymore, but it seems like many of you frequent fliers do t think or care about your consumerist behaviours.

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          I’m sorry tourists own all your local businesses and keep raising prices on themselves and you. Do the tourists also control your local government so you can’t build more, denser housing and better transit?

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        -the tourist part and you get an even worse problem. Locals (likely profiting of this) vs locals (who don’t want the bloat and over competition of local supply to these higher earners who don’t even live there) 1st worlders really are stuck in they’re own little ideological echo-chamber, the downside of mindless consumerism and unchecked liberalism without a care for who actually facilitated the nation to begin with. It’s gross.

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        I’ve noticed my style morphing more and more into a tourist stereotype since becoming a father. Cargo shorts, buckethat and carrying a camera everywhere. Luckily my city is less up its own ass about tourism.

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        They’d just do something else if there was no tourism or it never existed, but I’m sure you didn’t think about that

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          Everyone would do something else if there were no profits in what they were doing. If there were no profits in being a farmer then someone would be a plumber and if there were no profits in that then they would do something else. I think it mostly goes without saying that people want to earn money when they have bills to pay and they will do what earns them money

          This comment sounds stupid and that’s because it’s replying to something stupid

    • ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
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      The problem is that often that’s not the case. There are plenty of people trying to do actual work in places like Lisbon, Barcelona, or Paris, and the economy would probably be better if people didn’t require a two hour commute because the city center got taken over the with airbnbs.

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          No, investors do. Some investors only buy property in the city they live in, but a lot of investors buy property wherever they think they can make a profit.

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            That’s more like it.

            What about the local government who allows all this to happen? Maybe if put under pressure, or even voted out, locals could see some real change.

            But it’s easier to graffiti their own walls, and squirt tourists with water than to organize.

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              You don’t think they try to organise too?

              Of course they do. It’s very much a hard battle though because the upper class who gets rich off tourism is staunchly against it.

              The graffiti and squirts happen because of a failure of the political system, not because affected people or whatever are too lazy or whatever to impact politics.

              Same thing with climate activism. It’s not happening instead of political efforts.

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  • rose56@lemmy.zip
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    If your city relies on tourism, imagine what will happen if something like covid happens. Wm

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    People in this comment sections really don’t understand the extractivism and displacement inherent to mass tourism.

    As someone who had to move away from the place my entire family all my friends and community are because tourism skyrocketed the price and made it unaffordable, and am now isolated, I can empathise with this.

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    This person: “Tourists go home!”

    Tourists: "That… that’s the plan? Like eventually I’ll have to. "

    I wonder what this graffiti was meant to accomplish? Like, someone on holiday would see it and be like “Oh shit, guess I’m not wanted here, let me cancel all my reservations and leave early. Wouldn’t want my presence here to upset the locals any further.”

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      Some poor schlep probably worked in a restaurant where they get paid $2.13 an hour and just pulled a double because the place was hopping and the owner refused to pay them for the tips they weren’t getting.

      Not me blaming the tourists, the businesses should pay a living wage, but it’s not an unreasonable scenerio

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      Well I wouldn’t come back

      And when people ask how my trip was, I’d say “oh they really don’t want tourists there right now … Check out this picture. I wouldn’t plan on going there”

      It accomplishes its goal of making tourists feel uncomfortable and less coming next tourism season. If their economy relies heavily on tourism, well, they’ll figure it out. And if they don’t, then that’s on them. Be careful what you ask for and all that.

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        I generally don’t change holiday plans because 1 person in a city of millions don’t like tourists. If the people of the city don’t actually want tourists, they’ll make more official announcements about it. Until then, I’ll chalk random grafity on the streets up as some teenager being stupid and annoyed.

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    Some of my favorite travel photos are of other tourists. I love the one of all of the people holding their phones up to take the same bad photo of the Mona Lisa or the lawn filled with people all taking the same forced perspective shot of the Leaning Tower of Pisa.

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      One of the greatest videos I’ve ever seen was someone running along giving a high five to all the dorks taking the same photo of the leaning tower.

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    “What’s this, then? ‘Romanes Eunt Domus’? ‘People called Romanes they go the house’?”

    “It says ‘Romans, go home’!”

    “No it doesn’t.”

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    Other people are tourists; we, of course, are cultured travelers.
    I recommend Enzensberger’s seminal (PDF) piece on tourism to everyone. Here’s where he slams two early critics of tourism whom he considers to be hypocrites:

    Implicitly, they both demand that travel be exclusive, reserved for them and their like. They never say exactly what it is that distinguishes them from “sight-seeing-squirrels” or from the “cheap trippers.” The luxury they appropriate without a second thought is considered sinful when consumed by the mob. […] While condemning those who succumb to tourism’s attraction, Shand praises the “splendid views” offered by the great peaks, the “playground of Europe” - Switzerland at that time - and the “sanctuaries” whose desecration is always somebody else’s doing.