Juggalos had it right all along. It turns out the Insane Clown Posse fans' makeup effectively blocks some facial recognition software.
    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      11 days ago

      ICP is based as hell:

      "I SAY FUCK YOUR REBEL FLAG

      Out here pretending like you ain’t offendin’

      I SAY FUCK YOUR REBEL FLAG

      You redneck judges with racist grudges

      I SAY FUCK YOUR REBEL FLAG

      If you gotta tattoo, I’m aimin’ at you

      I SAY FUCK YOUR REBEL FLAG

      You get punched in your faces reppin’ the racists"

      • Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        11 days ago

        Speaking as someone who isn’t a juggalo, it’s clear that the subculture represents a lot more people than just the ones who identify with it. Like with Punk, a lot of outsiders don’t look past the aesthetic to realize that they’re trying to convey an important social message and be a voice for disenfranchised groups. They aren’t just people in clown make-up, they’re people who were fucked over by society and this is the outlet they found. Sadly it’s easier to laugh at memes about magnets than to confront their reality.

        I’d include the rap subculture as well but regrettably their message became diluted when they achieved mainstream success and were co-opted by the marketing amd propaganda machine as another tool to perpetuate the Spectacle.

        • Godort@lemmy.caEnglish
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          11 days ago

          I am also not a Juggalo, but every one that I have met has been kind and accepting to an aggressive degree.

          • whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            11 days ago

            I grew up around quite a few as they are pretty common in the Middle West especially middle and low income areas. Aggressively inclusive is a pretty good description of the subculture’s values. There’s some bullshit like anti science and anti education, but it comes from the elitism and exclusivity of those institutions which is a problem in public outreach and inclusiveness in academia. Most of the juggalos I’ve met just want to do drugs, listen to horrorcore rap, and watch wrestling, but I’ve also met some that can’t stand any of those things but just celebrate the stuff they do like instead of denigrating other people and their aesthetics.

        • SillyDude@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          11 days ago

          I grew up around a lot of juggalos. The music is kind of just a small part of the culture, it really is an entire culture, one based on acceptance of anyone. At least in the 2000s there wasn’t anything else like that. Old heads gatekept punk, they had officially declared punk was dead. Metal was mainstream. Eminem was the only “credible” white rapper because he had street cred from Detroit. If you didn’t feel like you fit in, the juggalos were there saying you’re welcome here. If you decide to call yourself a jaggalo, then you are, and you’re apart of the family. No interrogations about what music you’ve listened to your whole life, when you got into a specific scene, what socioeconomic background you have.

          And yeah your second point about rap is 100% true. I saw $uicideboy$ come and go. I remember in like 2014 they were underground, I really fucked with them. They made over 500 songs, had a huge following for the time, and were doing great. Then they signed onto universal to release iwtdino or whatever in like 2018. Never felt more betrayed. I really fucked with yung lean too, but he straight up said he was going to sell out. He was gonna get money. I respect that. $B are just corpo shills now acting like they’re underground while being the most mainstream corpo rappers to exist currently.

          • 4am@lemmy.zipEnglish
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            11 days ago

            Rave was the same way until it also got pulled mainstream around 2007/2008

            Before that we had assholes like Joe Biden trying to outlaw it by saying proving water to patrons was “encouraging drug use” and classifying any clubs that did it as “crackhouses”

            That shit was my church and they burned it. I stand in solidarity with Juggalos.

            • SillyDude@lemmy.zipEnglish
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              11 days ago

              I was trying to figure out where edm fits in to that but yeah, it was mainstream by the 90s. Started in the 70s, by the 80s there were defined raves for edm. But its hard to look at rave culture/edm as a whole since its so old and widespread. UK edm was different than US edm which was different than Latin American edm etc. Then all the divides within edm. House ravers didn’t want to go to hard style raves. Hard style ravers didn’t want to go to trance raves, etc.

              • cdf12345@lemmy.zipEnglish
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                10 days ago

                The Chicago anti rave law that allowed cops to treat raves like crack houses and drug dens. That meant anyone at a “rave” could have all your equipment seized and you’d be arrested. They made the definition of a rags as a gathering of 10 people and a DJ. Now a DJ isn’t going risk his decks or records being taken by the cops. The property owner could have the venue seized too.

                So everything moved into the downtown Chicago clubs and because 21+ and way way more expensive.

                Eventually the modern rave became EDM fests because everyone got a piece of the $$.

        • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          11 days ago

          Thats actually from Confederate Flag off of the missing link album, but your original statement is correct CoC is awesome.

    • stringere@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      10 days ago

      If you’re thinking of Darth Maul, that was his face because he was a Zabrak and they sport facial tattoos. Facial tattoos aren’t a necessary feature of the Sith.

        • stringere@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          9 days ago

          From wookiepedia:

          Physical characteristics

          Distinctions

          Vestigial horns,[1] two hearts,[3] facial tattoos

          Elsewhere

          The majority of Zabraks wore facial tattoos which often indicated familial ties, but could also simply be based on an individual’s personal taste.

        • douz0a0bouz@midwest.socialEnglish
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          9 days ago

          In one of the books it talks about him earning the tattoos. I think they were related to sith alchemy or rituals but were fairly niche among the sith. Palpetine was a weird one even for the sith it seems.

  • BillyClark@piefed.socialEnglish
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    11 days ago

    You know those influencers who are like makep addicts? They often use shading or tape to change the shape of their faces. I wonder whether they could fool facial recognition technology as well.

    The difference being that a person made up like that won’t stand out as much as a person wearing Juggalo makeup.

  • The Velour Fog @lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 days ago

    I used to think juggalos were cringe but I’m really digging how based they are ideology wise. Their music isn’t my taste but I’ve got weird musical preferences anyway.

  • teyrnon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    11 days ago

    People will call the cops on clowns they spot on the street, and cops respond. I kid you not, at least in some places.