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One of my past flatmates literally self-diagnosed himself with diabetes out of nowhere and started extreme dieting - made all sugar and high-carb foods haram and even started mixing his own flour to make it “multigrain”. Since we were sharing kitchen expenses all of our meals then started involving coarse bread and either chicken or tofu at all times. Made me constipated for a while.
I think all he really wanted was an excuse for that diet and it does seem to have worked well in him; shame it didn’t do so on me and just made me eat outside more instead.
Eat ourside? First response is what are you a dog?
Second response is: so is eating outside a way to say going out to eat in British English?
100%. For example right now the meat and dairy lobby groups are pushing hard for everyone to eat for more protein than they need. Now, I have people who can’t tell the difference between a cytokine and a histone without using Google, even if it slapped them round the face, telling me they need 100g plus a day in Brotien. Its just a coincidence that this so called health advice makes those groups a lot more money.
I’ve heard that you cannot absorb (for lack of a better word) more that 30g of protein/day (adjust for your body weight).
Is that remotly true?
Sounds like somebody isn’t retaining his semen
alot of people buy into the “flouride-free” gluten free, and inflammation, lysine diet apparently.
My body is an engine that turns food into lifting a hundred pounds of machinery. I dead lifted a generator about a week ago, yet it was the tree I felled a month ago that fucked up my shoulder.
did you figure out which underworked muscle group you have to work out next because of that
also this jam might suit you. https://youtu.be/Ux0iKbz_-yo
Yeah not my thing more of a listen to Tyr and Hulkoff while doing yardwork type of guy. As for why my arm got messed up, it was my offhand and I used it to push a ten year old orange tree the exact opposite way it was falling, because I didn’t want to risk the chainsaw sputtering and jumping into me.
i lost ~50 lb last year just by intermittent fasting and walking more. actually i stopped eating processed junk too
Almost like the only “scientific knowledge” you need is to burn more and take in less.
That’s a bit like saying “In order to run faster, you need to make longer steps and more steps per minute”. It’s obviously true, but the hard part is how to do that.
Measuring how many calories you eat in a day is literally the simplest form of managing your own nutrition.
Tracking how many calories you burn is likewise something so accessible a child can (and frequently does) do it.
What is so difficult to figure out, again?
Actually, your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) can change.
What you see online is based off of your age and your height and your weight, you should burn approximately x number of calories per day.
But people with thyroid issues and hormone issues and metabolic irregularities can actually burn less or more than the standard BMR listed on the internet.
To find out your true BMR, you have to go and get tested.
That being said, what you should do, ideally, is trust what the internet says about it, and then, if you find yourself having problems losing weight, then go and get your BMR tested. There are many sports medicine places that have the testing equipment that will do it for fifty to a hundred dollars, and you can find out that if you deviate from the norm. For instance, I burn about 200 calories less than my BMR says I should.
So if I’m eating 500 calories under that on my diet, I’m only burning 300 calories a day.
And if I eat specifically the number of calories my BMR says I should be allowed to eat and maintain my weight, I’m actually putting on 200 calories every day.
So the people struggling to lose weight just don’t actually want to lose weight? There are no psychological factors involved at all, no hormones, genetics, environmental factors, education - nothing to figure out?
Are you not aware of what “simplest” means?
Did I say that measuring calories is the end-all, be-all of nutrition and dietary knowledge?
Don’t put words in my mouth.
You did say CICO is the only thing you need.
Please point to another mechanism by which weight is lost.
Proper intake of vitamins, minerals, and essential nutrients is above the scope of what we’re discussing.
Proper nutrition absolutely able to be maintained at a caloric level that would facilitate weight loss.
Stop arguing in bad faith.
It is complex. There’s a mix of biology & psychology. Some people eat because they’d die if they didn’t. Others, for pleasure. Still others, it’s the only pleasure they experience in a day.
What do you do when the dopamine hit only occurs when you eat?
Some people drown anxiety in alcohol or xanax addictions. Others do it with food. The problem there is you can’t detox from food and remove it from your life.
Dig into some of the research nuggets, in this area, it’s wild stuff.
In addition there’s work to try to parse out some answers by studying cats. Why is one of your cats a behemoth while the other is a normal weight, both eating the same food from the same bowl?
Totally agree with you. And also the effect of drugs like antipsychotics. Even the skinniest people gain weight and have trouble keeping it off.
What’s difficult is keeping with it.
My weight has fluctuated from a low of 180lbs to a high of 450lbs throughout my entire adult life.
I know what to do. I know it’s easy to do it.
The hard part is knowing that the second I stop counting, it all comes piling back on.
It’s incredibly discouraging to know that most people can just…live. They eat when they’re hungry. They don’t constantly have a voice in their head telling them to eat when they aren’t. They don’t use sweets for emotional support or stress relief. They can leave food on a plate when they’re full. And they feel full with reasonable portions of food.
Moreso, they aren’t riddled with anxiety whenever their fat ass is on display out in public doing exercise.
I had an elderly woman at physical therapy tell me I’m the biggest man she’s ever seen. You know how upsetting that is? Like, no shit, I know I’m fat. And sure she likely has no filter because of dementia but man it still burns.
It’s an entire lifetime of learned experiences, eating habits, and psychological trauma. That elderly woman may as well have been one of the bullies in grade school or a douche in a pickup jeering at me on a walk. That’s the hard part.
It’s one thing to cut calories for a few months and lose weight. It’s another to look at the entire rest of your life and know, from experience, that as soon as you fall off the wagon, it’s back to square one. That you now have to change what’s essentially been hard-coding itself into your brain since some of your earliest thoughts. That you will, forever, have to continue counting calories and tracking food.
That’s the daily struggle. Resisting what you’ve known your entire life. And worse, needing it. Because you still have to eat, right? So you’ve got to eat, but you have to control it.
You have to control what, and how much, you eat while the food industry keeps on shoveling chemically-addictive foods in front of your face everywhere you go. Piping delicious smells out their exhaust vents as you drive by.
I don’t expect you to understand. People who never struggled with weight really don’t get it. Good for you.
On paper it’s easy. But our brains and bodies aren’t made of paper.
It’s miserable. Eat less and move more!
But the everything is screaming at me to eat. You’re hungry. And the voices from childhood! Don’t waste food! That’s a fucking sin! Don’t throw anything away, it’s better to treat your own body like a trashcan than to actually throw anything away!
And when you do eat, how do you stop? Because my brain knows there’s more food in the kitchen. It also knows how to make more food. And it’s going to go in there. It’s exhausting to have to say no every second of every day to a brain that’s a toddler.
Hate it.
Seriously those starving children in Africa owe me a little bit of thanks for always finishing my plate. Or something.
And when you do eat, how do you stop? Because my brain knows there’s more food in the kitchen. It also knows how to make more food. And it’s going to go in there. It’s exhausting to have to say no every second of every day to a brain that’s a toddler.
Going keto can remove the food noise, which could make it easier to make sustainable changes to your nutrition.
Intermittent fasting is a framework for how to organise that. If you don’t need a framework, good for you.
“Just stop being depressed and enjoy life”.
People are overweight because something in their diet, psychology or physiology overrides the natural desire to stop eating when they’ve had enough calories. As long as that thing isn’t addressed, trying to use willpower to overcome it can easily lead to burnout and disappointment. Sometimes raw willpower works, but most people who are overweight have tried that and found it doesn’t work for them.
Those people aren’t failures, they just happened to have a problem that didn’t eliminate itself when using willpower. If your problem is the chemicals in fast food, then stopping fast food by willpower can solve things, but if your problem is pica for some vitamin deficiency than stopping fast food by willpower will not solve things. People that stop by willpower alone are lucky, nothing more.
So most people who are overweight do in fact need more scientific knowledge, or better environments, or both. A pedestrian-murdering hellscape isn’t great for getting enough exercise. Micronutrients, letting your stomach rest, avoiding blood sugar spikes and dips, metabolism-affecting drugs like caffeine, stress eating, etc can all affect things.
And because people can’t just get up and move to a pedestrian-friendly area, or because vegetables are twice as expensive as meat per calorie, or because their job requires them to sit still for eight hours, they want to try the messy imperfect solutions that do as much as possible in their limited environment.
I can well believe that intermittent fasting works better than “burn more eat less” for someone with the unnatural lifestyle of sitting in an office chair for hours straight. The traditional 3 meal structure was built on a society where people did lots of physical labor throughout the day every day, so just trying to eat less in those 3 meals doesn’t change the fact that your body needs far fewer calories at certain times than that diet frees up, and the same goes for exercising outside of work hours.
You seem to be conflating 2 different things.
There’s the mechanism which is excess calorie intake v expenditure, and then there’s the reasons for the excess calorie intake. It’s dangerous to blend these because doing so mostly platforms excuses and denial of personal responsibility among obesity sufferers.
Oh no, reducing people with eating disorders’ sense of personal responsibility for their disorder. What a nightmare that would be.
Next up, let’s yell at someone with anorexia for throwing up in the bathroom!
Your comment is so accusatory and disingenuous.
You’re clearly missing my point intentionally.
And I have an eating disorder, so don’t start, bud.
Just addressing one part of this.
Veggies aren’t a primary source of calories, when trying to reduce calorie intake and eating healthy. Veggies are there for other important reasons. You focus on beans, lentils, and other legums for calories. Meat doesn’t even come close to their value. Rice, while having it’s own problems, is also more calories per dollar by far.
You should consider looking into the bioavailability of nutrients from meat vs legumes when factoring in value for money, also.
That’s just being healthy. I’d hardly call that a fad diet
some people look at me in horror if i say i’m skipping dinner tonight and breakfast tomorrow, or god forbid, not eating until day after tomorrow-- they absolutely think it’s a “fad” and that i’m going to die immediately if i don’t eat burgers and fries ASAP
i don’t know where you are, but where i live, skipping a meal or two is like… spitting on jesus or something
When I read “nutritional hexes” I assumed this would be honeycomb related.
Shout out to “alkaline water”.
With a squeeze of lemon!
I loved it when Gwyneth Paltrow said she drinks alkaline water for the health benefits… with a slice of lemon.
This is why I macrodose botox, which is grounded in real science, and proven to actually be fatal.
Pseudo-dermatology is also not very far away. The gap between what dermatologists and influencers say would be hilarious if gullible teenagers weren’t spending ridiculous amounts of money ruining their own skin.
The one that had me cry-laughing was the “sun your genitals” fad that lasted what, a week?
I lost a ton of weight and that gave me the courage to go to the nude beach. That day I got exactly 30 seconds of sun on my cock and that was enough to sunburn my knob. Itch/burn for days. There’s a reason it’s known as *where the sun don’t shine". Can’t imagine what it was like for the dopes that gave themselves 15 minutes under the Cali sun.
A lot of people go to nude beaches often and don’t have that problem. Did you use sunscreen?
No I’m saying it was the 1st time my cock had seen direct sun.
I mean come on… Try to read and understand
Nah bro I’m a Paleolithic human so I eat my burger without a bun.
Someone has to repackage the low carb diet in a new way every decade.
You still cooking your patties? Amateur. 🥱
Also: Replace “super” (as in “superfood”) with “sacred” and it works just as well.
The funny thing, the truly funny thing, Is that many people reading this will assume their assumptions about nutrition are fact based and everybody else’s is pseudoscience. Examining the data on your own biases is critical for any standing in science.
I agree, and I’d add that it’s important to realize that what was considered fact 20 years ago might not be the same today. So we should be going based off what appears relevant today.
what’s a common assumption about nutrition that’s not true?
That you need fibre; that you need carbohydrates
Neither are true, both will be told to you by doctors
i think I’ll listen to doctors
Its less commonly assumed now, but “eating fatty foods makes you fat” is really not true. The “fat free” food craze of the 90s-mid 00s took the fat out of everything and added sugar to make it taste good again. And everyone got fatter. Exactly as the sugar industry planned.
All over the place, we’re dealing with people who Do Not Get science, because they don’t really inhabit an objective reality. They’re doing the same woo-woo nonsense humanity has always done. It’s all just stories and belief. The signifiers just changed from headdresses to lab coats, and the jargon has a bit more Latin.
The “I don’t want to eat chemicals I can’t pronounce.” crowd get really mad when you try to explain that everything in the known universe is made of chemicals whose names they can’t pronounce. That meme listing the chemical makeup of an apple is a classic.
Ban dihydrogen monoxide!
Oh how I hate the whole idea of detox and clean as it relates to nutrition. I worked at a health food store when I was young and while there was good nutritious food there, plenty of good people, the whole idea of ‘clean’ comes from a very dark place. I remember the raw foods guys and the idea of breathetarians. Like the less physical and embodied you were, the better person you were, enlightened. The idea of the physical world being unclean and something you should try to be free of, I hate it.
It really is more of a religious idea than anything to do with physical health. I think you have to enjoy being embodied, love the physical plane of existence, to have a healthy body. Not perfect.
I read a thing recently that argued that “purity” is one of the most distinctive thematic motifs in fascistic thinking, and examined how that is a means by which people can slide into right wing ideologies from an initially left wing position.
It was striking because it made it clock for me why there seems to be a “crunchy eco-leftist turns right wing” pipeline. To attempt to summarise some of the article and my own thoughts following it: A purity oriented framework of health situates “toxins” and the like as the Big Bad Other. Many of us are aware of how dangerous the notion of a Big Bad Other is if we’re thinking about people, but it can creep up with us in contexts like this because it doesn’t seem harmful initially. However, by thinking about health in this way, we train ourselves to think in terms of the Big Bad Other, and condition ourselves towards thinking about things in a black and white manner.
I worked at a vitamin store chain owned by the parents of a college friend of mine (who is now worth $34 million lol - that chain has turned into a miniature Whole Foods) for a few months. I remember one customer came in because she was going through a divorce, and the cashier said “oh, you need St. John’s Wort for that”. Nobody there thought this was unusual in any way.
Also knew a guy in college who claimed to be a Breathitarian. We caught him at the Ponderosa steak house in the next town over one night.
I remember one customer came in because she was going through a divorce, and the cashier said “oh, you need St. John’s Wort for that”.
Capitalist witch woman gives antidepressants
