Some accounts are deleting their posts after a few downvotes. It’s devastating on communities like c/asklemmy.
Lemmy doesn’t track an account’s karma like reddit. So, all downvotes will be isolated to your post or comment and won’t affect your account—unless you wrote something truly horrible.
Remember lemmy is a community effort. Deleting a post also removes all comments on it. So you are not only robbing the effort others put in, you are actively removing knowledge from the fediverse. Others won’t be able to find it through search and lemmy will seem lonelier than it already is.
Mbin does have karma however. So it’s not like it doesn’t exist at all on the fediverse. Your karma is 1645 for me btw, though obviously depends on the posts of yours that have been federated to my instance.
Also, this isn’t entirely correct about Piefed. It does actually have a karma system, it’s just based on your up-/downvote ratio, not a number that ticks up endlessly. Some instances like piefed.social also have a hidden karma system that penalizes you for what it considers bad behavior iirc.
Mbin does have karma however
TIL. that’s quite interesting.
this isn’t entirely correct about Piefed. It does actually have a karma system,
I’m talking about reddit-like karma system that is based on up/downvotes you have recieved on all your existing posts and comments. This is the kind that encourages you to delete downvoted posts to boost your karma.
Right, I forgot the Piefed system is about votes you give out while the Reddit system is the opposite, votes you receive. I mean I did remember, but I forgot to use my critical reasoning there and notice the mismatch.
Well when you’re down voted on reddit they attack you and make you feel some kind of an odd sense of shame because of the hive mind that if you don’t show conformity to, you’re the odd man out and therefore, down voted to shit and nothing you say reached anyone because your comment gets hidden after being down voted enough times that it makes you feel like what’s the point of even keeping it up if no one’s ever gonna see it unless they get curious enough to click it to view the comment you wrote which might even have more value to the conversation going off the central point of the main question op asked, than you could imagine and again it makes you wonder why did I fucking even if no one gives a fuck to the point where what you said gets hidden. Not removed, hidden. That hurts.
So over time reddit culture teaches people to inadvertently delete posts when they feel as though they have no value and it sticks with people. That’s why people delete posts. Is the unconscious muscle memory of deleting something they don’t think anyone will care about.
Maybe it’s about the karma for some people but to me if what to say has no value to the people I am trying to reach then I will remove it. Period.
who the fuck gives a shit about imaginary internet points?
And if you come from Reddit where people can’t ignore a comment with a different opinion and have to down vote it, please don’t do that here. We don’t need that negativity.
I was talking about this in another thread the other day, and somebody pointed out that, on the fediverse, every post gets pushed out everywhere. So, a user deleting their own post is just asking pretty please if all the federated instances will respect its deletion.
I don’t think that all fediverse clients/portals delete the comments along with the posts. IIRC, Voyager lets you look at the comments on deleted posts, at least I think I’ve seen my own comment after the post was deleted.
Yes. But by default the instances delete the content when the request comes.
Clients like voyager and summit do show your comment because the reference exist on your profile but others cannot discover it because the post itself is gone from all feeds.
So what you’re saying is it’s an instance choice (and instance admin) issue? Mine shows reply comments on deleted comments. You might reflect this in OP… Likely new admins don’t know to turn it off as well.
No, it’s not a per instance choice unless you go and edit the code. Deleting a post hides the whole thing but comments are still available via a user profile.
You have to modify lemmy or piefed code to not delete the post from server instances upon request. It happens automatically.
The comments stay and can be viewed on your profile. But they cannot be discovered by others because the post which reveals them to the outside world is gone.
Comments work a bit differently. When you look at a post, and a comment is deleted you can still see its reply comments.
So post is always the starting point of discovery. If you delete that everything inside is effectively gone—like removing the only door into a room.
Hope that made sense.
Thanks, makes sense now.
Still seems like a (server) code level problem to provide sensible handling rather than having to try to notify all users of an unintuitive behavior. I’m guessing piefed would likely listen, lemmy perhaps less so.
It’s a per-instance choice, yes. Comments though are handled differently. A deleted comment doesn’t delete the thread or any surrounding comments, just itself. The issue at hand is when a post is deleted it also deletes all comments with it. Unlike reddit where a deleted post would still have all the comments and discussions below it.
a deleted post would still have all the comments and discussions below it.
Pretty damn sure that’s exactly what I see. It just says ‘deleted’ or some such and carries on. Makes sense for an instance like .ml where censorship is the goal, much less elsewhere. Are you sure there isn’t an off switch?
One of the admins on a previous lemmy server I was on absolutely cheesed me off (also, I donated to that server).
So, I deleted my posts to stop the server getting attention, especially a few of them were actively supporting the network
The admin was defending an absolute nutter who was admin on another server who was trying to shut down any opinions and discussions.
The rest of the admins were awesome, but after seeing that, it just felt weird to support them.
When I left reddit I just quit. I didn’t clean up anything.
you should at least replace your history with gibberish or ai poisoning, couple of open source githubs that do it, dont let them keep monetizing your contributions
What’s a good poisoning one?
Some communities are banning users for getting into mundane arguments with other commenters.
No they’re not
Please don’t care about up/down votes… but if anyone wants to downvote this then please do.
Don’t assume the post was deleted. Modded posts also show as deleted.
But also why would a downvoted post need to be saved? If it were a good post it’d have a positive vote count.
If it were a good post it’d have a positive vote count.
I don’t always agree with the hivemind’s judgment.
Different strokes for different folks
Yes, I frequently learn things from the replies to comments which have been removed by a moderator. I also like to look up the posts themselves to learn what was objectionable.
My client (Connect) separates user deletions from mod deletions by having mod deletions have a link to the modlog for that post/comment.
unless you wrote something truly horrible
Look, I will be honest, I don’t like this about social media platforms. Nobody is perfect and not every person universally agrees on everything together. Disagreements and arguments are a guarantee. Who decides what is “truly horrible?” It should be defined in the rules by the mods and admins, not by each individual user.
Downvote a post or comment however you want, sure. But nobody should be following accounts to harass them in other threads or vote brigading every post they make just because they don’t like or agree with a post. People do this all the time on Reddit, and Lemmy is no different, they do it here too. This is way more devastating to Lemmy than deleting comments or posts.
If a post or comment actually breaks rules, that is the moderator’s and admin’s job to take care of. Report it and let them handle it.
Nobody should be deleting posts, I agree, but also please don’t be a Brigade Bozo. Nobody likes a Brigade Bozo.
EDIT: Also, may want to add “Why you should know this:” before your last paragraph.
I realize you’re right, but when I first read this I thought it meant that if you wrote something truly horrible it would make you just have bad karma spiritually
Who decides what is "truly horrible?
Exactly. A community rule violation is what I had in mind. Some things universally “horrible” I can think of are hate speech, racism, and bullying etc.
People that follow someone around and downvote everything they write are pathetic. I would say I’m glad they are wasting their time, but I guess they can set up a bot to do it all so idk. It wouldn’t be hard for an administrator to see.
I hate to say it but I think that’s the point of why some people, mostly bots, brigade.
Imo, it’s a 4chan/discord/twitter style of attack to foster cult-like behaviors. It’s often purposeful done to drive out dissenters and it simultaneously makes it appear like your opinion is widely shared, while in reality it could be a very vocal minority, alt-accounts chiming in, or bots doing the brigading.
Many Lemmy communities have done a decent job so far at keeping bots out imo, which is something other social media platforms like Reddit don’t even attempt at doing at scale since it inflates active account numbers.
Also misunderstandings (on various layers! It’s not obvious!) can go horribly wrong. As a neurodivergent it’s the story of my life.
So basically you’re saying we should lobotomize all koalas? what the fuck dude, i can’t believe you’d clearly state such a horrible opinion in a way that can’t possibly be misinterpreted, how the fuck can you sincerely and passionately think that?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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I would assume that embarrassment drives most deletes here.
Why delete your posts yourself when you can just post to .ml and have them delete them for you?
Or get banned!
what cowards were deleting posts in reddit?
Tons of people, especially frustrating when people would nuke their accounts and replace all their comments with random words as these were usually quite tech savvy people.
You go and look for a tech question and the top comment is some script generated mumbo jumbo.
I completely understand people not wanting to support reddit anymore but it’s quite frustrating when you’re just looking for answers.
That is/was generally a protest against reddit itself. To take away the free content people had given reddit and to reduce its value.
For the same reasons a lot of people moved here.
Reddit is really to blame in that case.
Na fuck reddit tho, i did that to my account reddit should shut down tomorrow the world will be a better place.
The only time I delete I post is if I say something factually incorrect that I learn about later. I don’t want to be responsible for spreading incorrect information.
Is there a new influx of Reddit users? If so, why?
I’ve been off Reddit for awhile; when I looked over the past week it seems much deader.
Posts are getting much less engagement there than they were for the past few years, imo. Take my opinion with a grain of salt though cause that’s just for the most front page communities I happened to visit.
“the internet is 5 giant websites filled with screenshots of the other 4”
Hello, Mr. Doctorow. Good day!
They got rid of r/all and the bot karma farming went super critical.
Wait seriously?
It’s overrun by AI slop bots too.
This was the top post of r/aww the other day. Nobody noticed the AI slop. Or maybe all the comments were bots too.
I fucking hate the current- and probably next-gen slop. Modern cell phone cameras rely on computational photography, since the software based solution of guessing what’s there is much easier than expanding the physical optics and sensors.
But that also leads to artifacts that are very similar to AI-generated bullshit, because both are based on a computer making guesses based on a noisy input.
I hate that I can’t tell the difference between a cell phone’s bad guess and a data center’s really good guess.
maybe that will make polaroids a thing again, since it relied on exposure i would image it would be more difficult to fake
A cat taking a piss is the last thing I would upload to the awww sub, and I actually did follow that one on half of my accounts there.
But what are the other tells now, I take it the pattern is different on the floor in the circled part? I couldn’t even tell.
The last pic obviously the electrical outlet looks wrong but idk,
The cat in the last pic doesn’t look like the same cat either, it’s tail is fluffy, and it looks older, than the pissing cat?
The last pic OP posted as a more recent photo, so the age isn’t a tell.
Look at the focus shift on the cat’s body in the last pic. The center of the body is out of focus for no reason. It’s because LLMs don’t have spatial sense. It doesn’t “know” how to maintain realistic camera focus.
These types of outlets do exist(old/rarely used) but it’s mounted sideways. However it doesn’t seem to have any grounding going on. Afaik a circular one should have grounding.
The title is such nonsensical slop in itself. Wtf about hanging out in a litter box would make a cat “king”?
execute healthy bowel movements, king
They just removed best and hot from the app, now its a slop feed of low vote shit.
Reddit Is Fun still able to access All and Hot as of 6-17-26 and looking great as ever, but just looking at the titles of the posts make my eyes want to roll into the back of my head. It’s all that ‘hot take’ language from tik Tom or whatever. Not sure how to describe it better.
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I’m not sure but maybe it’s because reddit is aggressively banning or shadow banning accounts.
Every week spez does something to mess it up. It’s hard to keep track.
I’ve noticed that too. I have a lurker account but I’ve been largely out of touch with Reddit since 2014 or so.
There’s a consumer rights wiki we can use to help keep track:
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Reddit
The most recent changes look to be a mobile web blockage and requiring a login for using old.Reddit.
That’s why I’m here. No clue what I even did wrong. Wild guess is that it was from editing a post that contained a pastebin link to code I was asking a question about. But whatever the reason, this place is actually kinda nice. I did manage to revive a throwaway Reddit account I once made, so I guess I could go back, but haven’t really felt the need.
They are banning people for upvoting comments they don’t like. Did you recently upvote anything pro-labor or Luigi related?
Probably banned you for not being a bot.
They know it’s you still, if you’ve been permabanned especially.
Even if no ip or browser fingerprints or any of that rot follows you from your old account, the way you talk, your phrases, would id you.
ai burning down the data center trying to keep up with my bpd
