Internet arguments about brain science always get wild fast. Most of the time the science is a lot more complicated than the memes make it look.
I got mine removed and now I’m seizing the means of production.
Since as humans we essentially rule the earth, it makes a lot of sense for us to adapt to a new reality that shouldn’t need fear.
But that’s assuming we wouldn’t just spend all our time competing with each other in a negative sum game.
Isn’t competition in the US just another way of fearing being a less than person? I’ve known healthy competitors that just compete with themselves, but it’s rare.
Not sure what you mean, but yes hyper competitiveness leads to less value for human life.
My point was that it’s a negative sum game, we are all competing with each other in an unhealthy manner, in which we are all poorer collectively as a result.
And it’s not even helping evolution since merit isn’t correlated to financial success.
I’m saying that competitiveness usually also comes from fear.
My point was that it’s a negative sum game, we are all competing with each other in an unhealthy manner, in which we are all poorer collectively as a result.
100% agree
Stay close to the tree line. Learn to identify plants with poisonous oils. Stockpile the leaves that are like paper. If you must run a fire, use clean burning fuels, to avoid disclosing location. Dig a deep hole and build a privacy wall out of poisonous vines.
Edit that was for something else lol
It may have been for something else, but it’s weirdly applicable here…
I’m autistic and have an oversized amygdala but that doesn’t stop me from being leftist. I just feel compassion for everyone human. Still struggling with the compassion for animals that I eat.
It’s worth buying your meat from places with good practices
I’m fortunate enough to have some permaculture farms nearby
Still struggling with the compassion for animals that I eat.
Drop acid and watch Samsara
ironically i fear the SHIT out of right wingers, because they seem to actively want me to suffer before i die, for the crime of not being able to have a job
Its a death cult
To be fair, they want everyone but themselves personally to suffer and die.
Which is itself a form of suffering, imagine the humanity they miss out on and what you’d be without it. Liberalism and fascism are ideologies that subsist on the concept that there is an imaginary amount of violence that can be inflicted outward to relieve internal suffering.
There are a lot of “liberals” in the United States who are actually leftists, they’ve just been propagandized their whole lives into believing that’s what liberal is, and that “commies” are right-wing authoritarians. We need to awaken them.
Not all the “libs” are Bill Maher.
Or there is no benefit to introspection. there is no party left of democrats, so it doesn’t change my vote either way.
Learned helplessness.
I can’t tell if you’re joking, or if you actually meant to suggest that liberalism in the US – the most violent and destructive ideological hegemony in human history – could be socialism in a trenchcoat because some liberals sleep better with welfare liberal policies as opposed to the more honest and open genocide.
You know socialism was already popular in the US, right? For fifty years before WW2 it gained traction and its advocates successfully clawed away concessional labour rights and social-welfare programs. Y’know what happened? It did improve the conditions for workers in the US; and the institutions of white supremacy and patriarchy effectively disarmed its popularity once privileged classes got theirs. You’re claiming to be a communist of some sort, yet have neglected a material analysis of this history. They will reward people who subscribe to liberalism with better material security, and we know it works very well.
Liberals in the US believe what they believe because they correctly identify that so long as this system exists, they will be guaranteed something above any colonized people. They aren’t fucking stupid, they don’t have to have theoretical language to apply intuitive knowledge on their position in an empire. Liberalism is a result of their position in that society, not some form of victimization that compromises some innate moral purity.
When I say they suffer, it’s because of the fundamental ways in which a person who subscribes to that system must sever their connection to humanity and the world to maintain their comfort. It isn’t because they’re powerless.
The best solution to that struggle is to not eat animals
I feel bad for the forks and spoons in the drawer which didn’t get used that day… My amygdala must be an absolute fuckin’ HOG
that doesn’t stop me from being leftist
It’s because you’re autistic!
Still struggling with the compassion for animals that I eat
not trying to preach but in my experience the only thing that soothes your conscience once you’re to this point is to go vegan
Veganism is my unattended moral compromise. I am positive that future generations will look at us and our factory farming and, aghast, see us as the monsters as we are - much like we look back at slaveowners, even those who were against the institution at the time.
Since I am not living in or near the wild and not hunting for my own food, it is clear to me that veganism is the only real moral choice, and yet I still participate.
I am complicit in this delightful supreme pizza and complicit in this breaded chicken sandwich.
I feel your shame friend. We have so little opportunity to do the right thing, and we still fail.
Factory farming is the problem, not animal husbandry. If the whole world went vegan, do you think the vegetables we eat would not be altered to better serve yield rather than quality? Do you think pesticides would not be used in staggering levels? Do you think vegetables aren’t alive so it’s okay to eat them? If it doesn’t have a face, it’s cool to eat? Life is sustained by consuming other life, the world over. I agree that industrial farming is disgusting and cruel, but not just to animals.
Killing animals for taste pleasure is morally wrong, weather it happens in a factory farm or on that mythical uncles farm that tottaly loves and pets his animals to death.
And yes, it’s ok to kill plants because they do not feel pain. They can’t feel pain because they lack a nervous system to do so as well as an evolutionary reason for pain to exist.
And even if plants feel pain, it takes MUCH more plants to feed animals to then feed humans.
It isn’t morally wrong, it goes against your morals maybe, but that doesn’t make it wrong. We are allowed to disagree and you are free to choose the diet you prefer, as are the rest of us.
Nah, it’s morally wrong and if you are honest you will actually agree. Let me explain:
Let’s set a moral baseline that we both agree with. Shooting a random person that has done no harm to anyone in the head without their explicit consent is morally bad, yes?
Now, what is different about, say, a pig that makes it less than morally bad to kill the pig? If we then apply that difference to that random human again, is it now less than morally bad to kill them?
The honest answer (and one that I can at least accept) is: there is no such difference.
What is your answer?
“what is different about a pig that makes it less than morally bad to kill the pig?”
oh, the classic rhetorical trap of “name the trait” which always devolves into a no-true-scotsman. on its face it’s purely a spectrum fallacy. the inability to identify a singular trait or even a set of traits that differentiate humans from pigs doesn’t change the fact that they are fundamentally different.
please, no one fall for this line of discussion. it’s just an exercise in shaming and time-wasting.
“I can’t answer this, so it must be a trick.”
Ok then.
The pig is food. I will eat the pig. I won’t eat the human. The pig isn’t indiscriminately murdered, it is slaughtered for food. We as a society still think it is morally right to kill someone convicted of a crime in some places. While I don’t agree with that, those states do. If morals can be grey, it’s because they are. Morality is a human construct. What’s moral today can be immoral tomorrow.
the “name the trait” argument is so well known vegans just call it “ntt”. they’re not here in good faith; they think they have a gotcha.
So if someone declares you food, is it now moral for them to slit your throat and butcher you?
what a gish gallop. you sure you didn’t have any more righteous claims too stack in?
I was directly adressing the points brought up by the other person. What did you contribute?
Killing animals for taste pleasure is morally wrong
no one does that, anyway. but even if they did, what is wrong with it? eating animals is fine.
And yes, it’s ok to kill plants because they do not feel pain
you can’t prove this
it takes MUCH more plants to feed animals to then feed humans.
most of the plants fed to animals are parts of plants we can’t or won’t eat. a great example is soy: we run over 4/5 of the global crop through an oil press and extract what we want, and feed the leftover plant matter to animals. no more plants are harmed in this process, and we conserve resources by getting food back from the animals.
Farming is already optimized for yield.
Trust me, the more explorations I do on the nature of consciousness, the more I wrestle with all of that.
I don’t believe that it is inherently wrong to kill in order to eat. But as a species we don’t. Which isn’t to say there aren’t members of our species who very much do still need to kill to eat.
But I don’t need to kill to eat, and I’ve outsourced that killing so it feels like more of an abstraction than it is. I can at the very least acknowledge this.
Animals don’t have nervous systems, which appear to be what enables suffering
The smell of cut grass is the grass warning other grass that doom is upon them. Plants communicate in ways we can’t understand in the same way as they don’t make noise. They don’t like being harvested anymore than an animal does.
And how do you suppose that warning response leads to qualia?
Yes?!
Did you mean to say plants instead of animals, or…?
Nice to see conservatives were able to rebrand the “conservatives have over-active amygdala and are scared of everything for no reason” articles
“I’m afraid more often and that’s why I’m a terrible person!”
who need they amygdalussy ate
I’m willing to bet no one has ever said this before.
I’m just like Ghoulia from Monster High:
- smart as af
- gives good brain
- wants good brain
- massive, huge, thick, Juicy amygdalas
- keeps it sloppppy
- incoherent
- scolioSIS
- dresses cunt
- pallid corpse blue
We’re literally twins
I’M AFRAID OF EVERYTHING LIKE A REAL MAN!
Crazy that they boast about having an overactive amygdala but deny it when people say they are acting crazy and paranoid.
Also, side note: conflation of liberal and leftist as if they’re the same is kind of a pet peeve of mine. They are very much not the same thing. Those who know know.
Ah, the typical nazi idea of correlating random body measurements with complex behavioral and emotional patterns.
You mean the Brit/American eugenics idea.
Hitler was a great fan of these racists so he sent a dr Mengele to study the superior Nordic race at Carnegie’s American Eugenics Society.
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Hi, I’m a coward bc I’m not a leftist isn’t the flex you think it is.
OMG they are so detached from reality that they are bragging about being terrified?
I’m guessing they think it helps them wake up and see the truth that they are being exploited on, while they see people with a smaller amygdala as like mindless sheep that just takes in any info and takes that as doctrine.
The thing that they don’t consider though, is that fear and anger is often a form of control.
It’s because they think we take in information the same way they do.
The process in which they construct understanding:
- Feel something (id)
- Come up with an explanation that satisfies id. (Super Ego)
- End process
How real understanding is best constructed:
- Feel something
- Come up with an explanation that satisfies id.
- Ego passes the explanation over to Super Ego.
- Super Ego looks for any aspect of the explanation unsupported by objective fact.
- If a gap of knowledge is discovered, ask why recursively until you cannot ask why any more.
- Super Ego passes explanation back to id.
- Id tells you if the explanation feels like it’s bulletproof.
- Go to sleep because that was a lot of hard cognitive work and you deserve it, and the other person didn’t do any of this work.
- Understand that the other person that opposes you likely didn’t work as hard as you to disprove yourself.
- Listen to them call you lazy for not doing the work.
- Present Day
You can’t change minds if you don’t know how their minds work.
The average American reads at an elementary school level, and many are functionally illiterate. Here is a case in point.
“I’m more scared than you!” Is a weird flex.
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