• foggy@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    If your product can’t enter my world without you paying millions of dollars to interrupt my good time, I am positive I do not need to know about your product.

  • nonentity@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Advertising is one of the most prolific environmental pollutants of economic activity, and needs to become as socially acceptable as smoking.

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      3 months ago

      Id argue its worse than smoking. Its closer to successfully lobbying the government to force doctors to recommended smoking for newborns.

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    3 months ago

    People are responding with ad block but as much as I hate them I kinda like being aware of what they are. Anyone who is confused about why our country is where its at go turn off your ad blockers for videos.

    • Ocean@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      Yeah, no. I don’t need an advertisement to inform me that consumerism being propped up by imperialism is why everything sucks

    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      They used to.

      Why do you see diminishing returns lately? Because more money into more ads lead to consumer fatigue.

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    3 months ago

    Where do you even see ads ? Use an ad blocker ! Haven’t seen ads online for over a decade.

  • Karu 🐲@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Too many people here are saying that ads don’t work.

    Whether they work or not doesn’t matter. The problem is that ads are literally designed and optimized to manipulate you out of your money, and to cause you to make decisions on emotion rather than reason. This is unethical at its core. How most people are ambivalent towards companies manipulating us is beyond me.

    • HubertManne@piefed.social
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      3 months ago

      Yeah it kinda blows my mind with politics. Time and again more money means more ads and results in more wins. I mean its not 100% but its enough that if someone wins while spending less and is not the incumbent its a news item. We have an open senate seat here and the front runner with the war chest is the one I least want to win. I really don’t get it as I find most ads turn me off to their subject. I mean even negative ads about the opponent turn ya off to the one its for. But obviously it seems to work overall. I hate it.

    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      This is the key.

      Ads don’t care if you like or don’t like them, as long as you remember them.

      The worst thing an ad can do is be forgettable

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        3 months ago

        I don’t know how having me associate their name with a spike of rage is a good thing. There are definitely companies I went from being neutral towards to never considering them again due to their advertising methods. For example I’ve never eaten at Quiznos because of those fucking rat commercials they did like 20 years ago. I’m not even sure if that place still exists or not. I hope not, and I hope whoever came up with those commercials is dead.

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          Sorry dude, you’re on lemmy. Nobody is here because it’s the easiest or best. Most of us are here because we’re the types who don’t like getting fucked over. I wholeheartedly agree that ads in and of themselves are annoying and fucking detest those Quiznos commercials but we’re the “weird” ones here. Most people loved those ads and Quiznos sold a ton of crappy sandwiches. Sadly advertising works on most people.

      • howsetheraven@lemmy.world
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        Every single ad these days go into a memory black hole. They are so irritating, so invasive, so EVERYWHERE; that I instinctively dissociate from anything in them.

        They won’t get my conscious or subconscious attention. All of my large purchases are researched a minimum 2 weeks in advance and anything small is done on a case by case basis (of which I intentionally scrutinize anything I might have “heard of” because I’m aware of the phenomenon. Fuck all ads, they are my enemy.

      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Disagree.

        I may be in the minority but the more I know about you, the less I ever want you in my house.

        I will literally go by an LG Washing Machine out of spite because Sony showed up too much in ads.

        • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          They are playing statistics, most people that think they are immune to ads are full of shit and even if they somehow defy common human behavior it isn’t really relevant to an advertising effort that doesn’t care about the minority.

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    You know I cannot be the only one that will consciously decide to not buy brands that make intrusive adverts. But, they must also know that. So I can only assume that the majority of people don’t think the same and it’s an overall upside for these annoying ads.

    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 months ago

      Adblockers are not that difficult to install, so I’d guess the slice of people who really resent ads enough to actually make purchasing decisions out of spite but also who still watch them isn’t that big.

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      3 months ago

      That baffles me too. Being annoyed by an obnoxious ad instantly puts the brand in my naughty, to-boycott list.

      Like, if I ever need to use a VPN, guess who I’ll go out of my way to never, ever use? That’s right NordVPN, go fuck yourself! I’ve never used you and I already hate you.

      How do people care so little that it’s still a beneficial strategy for brands?

      • Apathy Tree@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I just assume that anyone who needs to spend a lot on bothering me about their product… is either pushing a really shitty product, or offering it at a really shitty price, because so far that has been the case about 90% of the time.

        If it was a good value, people would spontaneously recommend it when appropriate, with only light advertising in places where it makes sense (athletic gear advertised on sports websites, for example). Hell, it doesn’t even have to be all that good a product, just better than the alternatives. I mean look at Linux! :p

        It’s so clear when you know what’s going on, but I think most people operate under the assumption that if they constantly hear about it and don’t hear bad things to the same degree, that the thing must be good. Propaganda is everywhere saying exactly that in lots of different ways, so hard to really blame them…

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          it utterly baffles me why ads for context-relevant things are so uncommon, the only places i really see them are woodworking channels…

          Yeah you get less money from those ads, but it also means your channel won’t implode in 3 years when you accidentally advertise a company that drives customers to suicide…
          It also means you build a reputation as trustworthy, which especially these days is pretty valuable and will drive viewership.

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          or offering it at a really shitty price

          Advertising budget has to come from somewhere. If you can afford to inundate me with constant ads, then I know your product costs way more than it needs to.

    • Eheran@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Correct. Ads work extremely well. The simple and short explanation is that most people are dumb.

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    3 months ago

    I never wanted to wring the necks of anyone more, than to the dumbasses who thought making product jingles would be the key to making people buy. Like the Charmin one.

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    I also sometimes consciously dislike things because of annoying ads.

    But it doesn’t matter. The overall result is that now you’re aware of that brand, you have a place for it in memory. After time passes it will be The One I’ve Heard Of unless you’re dedicated to remembering to avoid it. There’s something called the Mere Exposure Effect - it mostly works and they know it. :(

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      called the Mere Exposure Effect - it mostly works

      …is what the 90% market leader says, who profits from it the most.

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        If it didn’t work they wouldm’t profit from it.

        Advertising exists for a reason, and that’s becsuse it’s very effective.

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          That’s not how executives work.

          Edit: i say, it maybe works somewhat in traditional ads but not as much in annoying ads (popups, inline, in-video) as Google promises. And that executives are often enough a bit naive in promises for savings/wins (see AI programner promises vs. reality and how they still jump on it). Also, how the internet marketplace works (programmatic advertising), it’s on mere promises only anyway.

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    Sorry but wrong. You are not going to win this kind of battle against advertisers. If you notice the intrusion and hate the product, you weren’t in the market for their product in the first place. They don’t care that you hate their company. When you are in the market for the product, you won’t notice the intrusion or it won’t matter if you do; the ad is still increasing your exposure to their product in the ways that increase your chances of buying.

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      3 months ago

      I agree with this. Ads contaminate your mind, so make sure to use ad blockers. But also help your friends set up ad blockers, because if their minds are contaminated, it will spread to you.

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        Would you pay a higher price to do so?

        Would you (or could you even afford to) pay twice the insurance premiums because Liberty or State Farm ads annoy you?

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          I currently do, maybe not twice, but about 20% more to avoid them

          I also refuse to buy several cheaper car companies because of ads I saw years ago, and bought a more expensive car for my wife to avoid them

          I don’t know the price difference, but there’s also a toilet paper brand I will never buy

          I’m sure lots of ads work on me, but if your ad is annoying enough, I will pay significantly more to your competitor

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      I don’t know. Bad word of mouth can severely harm a product I think. So they should really care if there are millions of people who absolutely despise them.

      By the way, completely unrelated, don’t use Wix if you’re making a website. It’s awful. Also, I heard it was mentioned in the Epstein Files. Could be untrue but just to be safe don’t use Wix if you don’t want you and your website to be linked to Jefferey Epstein. Wix, the child predator’s choice. Allegedly.

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        I actually am planning on making a website soon. I’ll have to keep Wix in mind.