• OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago
    • Company refuses pay worker enough. Expects tips to cover the gap.
    • World Cup visitors refuse to tip. Says company should pay more.
    • Worker gets f*cked over from both ends.
    • Company still gets their money so they going give a f*ck.
    • World Cup visitors get to feel self-righteous.
    • Worker is still f*cked over, can’t pay their rent or buy groceries.

    Seems like you’re just being cheap assholes to me. A couple idioms come to mind:

    • two wrongs don’t make a right.
    • when in Rome, do as the Romans do.
  • WereCat@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    When I went to Japan I didn’t tip because it was rude.

    If I’ll go to USA I won’t tip unless I want to because expecting tips is rude.

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          There was nothing funny about joking about glassing the middle east or invading europe, but here we are.

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            Yeah, like I said, “any of this” includes that. Watching the US becoming the Nazis is not entertainment when you know it means people will suffer, not just the people you think should suffer.

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          2 months ago

          Local sportsball leagues? Sure.

          National televised sportsball? Just a vehicle for gambling and societal division.

          Sportsball is just a war surrogate anyway.

  • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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    2 months ago

    I never before thought about FIFA bringing attention to social issues but think about it, the book the spotlight on Qatar, and now the United States, they should probably go to North Korea next.

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    What sucks about stories like this is not only are the servers not getting paid, they’re actually losing money because of the alcohol sales.

    Why? Because in most restaurants that sell alcohol the server has to tip out the bartender a percentage of their drink sales. That $0 tip actually just took $5 away from the server.

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      And without it, dishwashers, bussers, host staff who barely afford minimum living expenses wouldn’t be able to do that.

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        I was talking about a sub-minimum wage earner tipping out another sub-minimum wage earner, but you’re absolutely right about the other staff. In fact it’s even worse with a sub-minimum wage earner paying out of pocket to the wage earner.

    • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Yes but you’re forgetting that the rich Douchebags going to the world cup are deserving of being allowed to do that because checks notes “the employees they’re hurting work in the USA and therefore aren’t people because their government sucks and ours is so much better just don’t look behind the curtain or in the closet or under the rugs”

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        Ah, you’re right. Disregard what I said. The servers should be grateful they have the privilege of losing money due to FIFA’s patrons.

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    Tbh, this is a distraction. News channels pointing to those (few probably) pesky foreigners refusing to tip, and everyone falls for the rage bait.

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    Only a European could find a way to express their “progessiveism” by stiffing underpaid workers and somehow acting smug and morally superior for it, as if their shit smells like roses.

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    I think it used to be that even Europeans traveling in the u.s wouldn’t like tipping culture but recognized the plight of the worker and would tip something.

    The Americans have been so offensive, weak, embarrassing and completely subjugated to their own corporations that people from abroad no longer empathize with the worker. They wouldn’t be there if it wasn’t for their sports game. There’s no culture to experience or anything to see.

    Americans have made it clear that they refuse to stand against their brand of capitalism and the rest of us want nothing to do with it as mini versions of their bullshit get attempted elsewhere.

    There’s no reason to respect or empathize with the population further. I don’t go there for anything but I wouldn’t tip anyone either or spit on them if they were on fire. We’ve run out of empathy and there has been no benefit to being kind to Americans. It’s far better to just not have them in your orbit. They won’t help themselves so why should we open our wallets.

  • Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    If you can’t tip, don’t go to the restaurant or bar. Those workers depend on their tips. And the restaurant or bar isn’t just gonna make up the difference for the server just because you decided not to tip.

    Those Europeans are being dicks.