And does the SF ever go away?
I did it for a little over a month once just to see what it was like. There weren’t really any effects beyond just being horny all the time. It was basically like being a teenager in high school again. Other than that nothing changed. I didn’t experience any of the benefits you see people talking about. I probably had more trouble focusing on work but that’s hard to tell because that’s always been a problem.
the “benefits” are mostly people with addictions losing their executive disfunctions. re-realizing you can just…do things you want to do is powerful experience
Personally I find being horny incredibly distracting. It’s so hard to focus on anything and makes interacting with people you could theoretically “mate” with much more difficult because my mind is constantly preoccupied with “would. I wonder if they’d be interested.” Really annoying.
Yeah I’m the same way. I have a much easier time interacting with women if I keep the edge off.
You ll just be alot more horny and you will have more sexual daydreams. The rest normalizes, but keep in mind sex is healthy for the body in general.
Your balls will explode!
I’m a woman.
In that case, your balls probably won’t explode then.
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That’s fatal.
Chesticles will explode
Sounds like a categorically terrible idea. Is there any ackshuall proof having 1 orgasm per day (regardless of the outlet or method) is harmful in any measurable/quantifiable way besides reducing desperation for sex?
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Well I’m a woman and I’ve talked to some men too who agree that when we masturbate it tends to make us turn socially inward & diminishes our drive to reach out to other people.
Whereas sexual frustration compels us to go out into the world with a sense of hunger & ambition, seeking social interaction & activities.
It’s the lifestyle I’ve chosen because after years of suffering all aspects of this mortal hell we call life, I’d rather feel paragraph 2 than paragraph 1.
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This view seems, to me, to be really sex-focused in kind of a creepy way that … if you ask me, might have something to do with denying basic urges.
You can go out into the world looking for connections that are not sexual.
Without sexual release we’re a bit voracious & on edge but also at peak creativity & ambition; driving us to go out in the world and get shit done. Invent things. Create things. Meet new people with no ulterior motives, already living a wholesome life, and that’s how we can meet people the real way without our hands constantly down our own pants.
I am older, and have not found any of that to be true. As a lady, more makes more; more sex makes sex feel better and it’s easier to get off, and sexual frustration does not make me creative at all, just distracted and frustrated.
There is also physical benefit to sex for older women, I don’t know if it’s the same for younger, but certainly after menopause sex prevents vaginal atrophy and prolapse of internal organs, it’s sort of a use it or lose it situation. Penetration and orgasms are good for muscle tone, apparently. Beyond the obvious benefits of pleasure and relationship building.
What evidence are you basing the idea that your drive comes from your libido? There are a lot of people out there with low or no libidos who have accomplished a ton.
Why are you focusing on libido as the source of creativity to the exclusion of a lot of other potential drivers?
This is what I am saying: the focus seems odd and creepy without lots of evidence for your reasoning.
It’s my own subjective experience. Masturbating is effortless immediate gratification that turns me into a reclusive hermit.
But every time I abstain for a month or so, I become a real person who participates in life & wants to connect with people.
The difference is undeniable.
I’m not telling you what to do and I’m not telling anyone else in the world what I think they should do. I’m telling you my own subjective experience and my own choice.
Yes, you’re right. Don’t let anyone tell you how you feel. Doesn’t make it exactly scientific though, even if it’s true.
I think maybe you should think through why you feel that way, though. Surely you could decide to go out and be social because you would like to make new friends or be entertained. You’re here, writing out your thoughts, so you’re able to reflect and decide on actions.
I’m a man so maybe it’s different but having tried both, that certainly isn’t the case for me. Without sexual release I just want to cum. It doesn’t inspire me to do anything else that won’t move me towards that goal. Maybe if masturbation were impossible it would be a different story but as it stands the only purpose being frustrated serves is to distract me from non-sexual tasks. Being lonely on the other hand does inspire me to go out and do things and maintain relationships but it’s not for sex. If I’m frustrated in that regard I’d rather just stay home and jerk off. That’s a sure thing rather than the incredibly low chance I’ll meet someone that wants to fuck me right away.
It would seem like the source of this unhealthy worldview probably isn’t the masturbation. But if nofap honestly (honestly) helps you, then knock yourself out.
Life is about balance. You dont want to be a reclusive masturbation addict, and you don’t want to be an anxious frustrated nofapper.
Yeah but every time I cum alone, it reinforces the alone-ness. I’m sick of self-perpetuating loneliness. Going out into the world with hunger & ambition & angst feels empowering right now.
Then IMO follow what makes you feel right. In general just avoid taking things to extremes.
That same idea can get you into bad relationships. It’s better to find a partner with a level head.
Beliefs shape the way we feel. There’s no biological reason to feel lonely after masturbation. That’s all pseudoscience bollocks. Female orgasms cause a peak of neural activation, if anything, you should feel more active and hungry to go face the world. But the point is that this changes or differences that are usually quoted by charlatans from neurological studies, while significant, are so tiny as to not be an actual factor at an individual level.
Humans are also bad at correctly discerning causation and correlation, specially within their own emotional experience. Thus why therapy works, it’s a third party that can more objectively call out your contradictions and point out causes.
Now I would gather you believe that masturbation is something awful lonely people do and that’s why you feel lonely when you masturbate. This doesn’t mean there’s anything inherently wrong with you. However, most people ignore that most of our worldviews, and beliefs we take for granted are actually cemented in childhood experiences, not always traumatic. But they do build the foundations of our personalities.
It’s perfectly possible to masturbate then go out into the world with hunger and ambition. Most people do.
You’re a woman who wants to “NoFap”?
I was just using a quick easy term that you’re all familiar with. Though Im pretty sure the word “fap” is an onomatopoeia for the rhythmic fleshy smacking noise of penis being furiously stroked in one’s own hand.
I sincerely dont and cant understand no-fap outside of an addiction 12-steps/abstinence style vantage point.
I’ve also seen it recommended for breaking “death grip” habits.
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Like, i dont get how they (presumuably) view having an orgasm-via-penis-in-vagina everyday as truly and biologically distinct from everyday orgasm-via-masturbation. I dont think your body truly knows the difference in a mechanical sense.
Having never looked into it, beyond what I come across occasionally on sites like this, I always assumed the idea was that being desperate for “relief” somehow made them more attractive to women, hormonally, or made them more “alpha”? Somehow.
Really stupid shit that kids fall for, I guess.
being desperate for “relief” somehow makes men more attractive to women, hormonally
It’s true!
being desperate for “relief” somehow made them more attractive to women
We all know that the thing women are most attracted to is desperation. /s
Mechanical isn’t the only part being played. There’s hormones too. I’m positive there’s differences there depending on alone or with someone. Whether or not that has any health implications I’ve no idea.
You get it!
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Yeah it would basically be an anti addiction approach for me. Addiction runs in my family and we get addicted to everything remotely pleasurable. So I’ve spent my whole life saying no to alcohol & drugs & cigarettes, and since I cant find a suitable companion I have to say no to orgasms too 🤷🏼♀️ For me it feels empowering.
I just saw several posts the last 2 days of a study that showed that if you don’t cum enough, your sperm becomes a bunch of dumb dumbs. Yes, I used scientific lingo for that, I’m sorry.
Don’t be a pussy, man up and castrate yourself.
I’m a woman.
There is an extensive catalog of toys for you to make you feel things no man will ever do
Oh I have all those toys. And believe me that might be part of the problem. No man has ever satisfied me like those toys do. But I’m tired of wasting my energy on robots. I want the love & oxytocin & presence of a human.
After reading through the whole post, I doubt that.
You’re doubting that I’m a woman? 🤣 Ok you keep enjoying your mental gymnastics. Whatever entertains you 🤷🏼♀️
How would mental gymnastics come into this?
Do you know what gymnastics is? It’s doing a bunch of flips & tumbles to get from point A to point B instead of just walking there, sometimes going the opposite direction and ending up back where you started, or in a completely different place.
Mental gymnastics is when you read something that’s pretty straightforward but your brain goes & unravels it & turns it inside out & upside down & comes up with an entirely different idea than what was presented. Sometimes it’s necessary to do that which is called critical thinking, but sometimes it’s unnecessary to do that and that’s what you did here. Because everything I said was straightforward, I am not creative enough to tell lies.
I know what mental gymnastics is, don’t be condescending. It doesn’t apply here.
Well it would’ve taken you a lot less effort to read this post at face value than to do flips & tumbles in your mind to come to your own conclusion that I’m the opposite gender than I stated.
This response reminds me of my favorite comedy podcast: SuperEgo.
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I’m in it, last relationship was 17 years or so ago
I mean it ain’t all bad. So long as you don’t mind the actual loneliness, the physical touch gets easy to forget.
But I dunno if I’d recommend this to anyone tbh
Oh edit because I didn’t address your question. No it doesn’t go away, but it gets easier to ignore over time. Also I’m on 1500mg oh lithium so that may impact things.
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“it is what it is”? (I don’t know latin.)
That isn’t what it is.
It’s French. It means “What is this?”
Benefits: You can take all the meds with sexual side effects (e.g. most anti-depressants) which is actually a significant reason people ultimately stop taking them, and folks with testicles retain all their spermidine which low n RCTs have shown early evidence for autophagy-based longevity.
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🤣 You’re not wrong.
I can only guess anger, depression and extreme irritability. Especially in such a sexually charged culture.
One of the side effects is compulsive posting on 4chan /pol
I’ll first state that I am NOT the normal outcome but I think it might be interesting for others to see my situation.
I am transfem (male-to-female) and am on Estrogen injections and Progesterone pills. I’m not on any testosterone blockers as my natural testosterone production is literally 1/10th the average male testosterone levels (56 without HRT, 18 on HRT. Minimum acceptable level is ≥250). I am also on antidepressants, and 2 anti anxiety medications. All of these combine to me having essentially no labido at all.
I would call myself asexual but if I find a partner I might want to do it sometimes, but idk since I’ve never had a partner because I really don’t have any natural drive to get one like others do 😅
I only had 1 crush throughout my entire teenage years, but on HRT I am falling for people a LOT more now lolOn estrogen you don’t get ‘morning wood’ like mens bodies do, which is a natural thing your body does to prevent the damage/shrinking to tissue in the penis. So instead you have to manually get an erection at least once a week, but this is difficult for me as I have no drive to. I have casually gone 2.5 weeks without doing it just because I really didn’t want to, and have experienced the repercussions of it.
I would say there’s some really slight tension for the first week but then absolutely nothing 🤷♀️
I feel like this meme portrays my attraction type more than anything sexual

Thank you for sharing your experience. It seems based on your numbers and pre-transition experience, you were always genetically meant to be a woman, low testosterone & low libido just like so many of us!
That cartoon, yeah whenever I’m in a relationship I always end up feeling like the girl in pink. I’m so clingy & obsessed. But when I’m alone I’m stronger getting shit done & being independent & responsible, because there’s no other choice, gotta survive, but so lonely.
I don’t understand the idea of not fapping.
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