Yes, I would feel totally safe in a country where every idiot can get weapons.
In Florida you don’t even have to prove to the state you can safely handle a gun to have a concealed weapon on you
You know in this particular situation I don’t think the car was the main problem.
Well the car didn’t murder the guy
Yeah, it could be because of our car culture, not the cars themselves. Or maybe it’s just good old fashioned lack of mental healthcare.
People spend SO much money on their damn cars, and often treat them both like a second home and a part of their personality.
America is such a shithole.
Absolutely. Lost my job recently and started having to drive again and let me tell you every single driver is some form of psychotic. It’s insane.
Including you?
I think they are saying they are too poor to leave, would if they could but the USA aka the imperial core is a empty vessel of lesser things and a pit of dispair. Sure we all can shit heads but it is the enviroment that fosters such deplorable behavior. It was not meant for you to take it personal. They are not talking about you so there is no reason for the verbal boomerang.
Lol. We are rich enough to leave, but doing so would subject us to a reduced standard of living. Europe seems great, but their high population density is what drove them to colonize America in the first place.
Every. Single. One.
Especially me. I hate doing it so much. I don’t drive like a psycho but I’m certainly unwell.
Sure. You have to be insane to get behind a wheel. I am insane for doing it.
Fair
Introspection is a gift, not a gotcha.
I like that
That person shouldn’t have a gun or a car…
yet they are a product and a victim of our antisocial infrastructure. The criminal and the victum are one in the same. Justice should be served but the enviroment still plays a part.
Next up: driver sues the family for damages to the bullet.
In Europe a few years ago a driver sued the estate of the cyclist he killed for the damages to his BMW.
In Ontario, driver sues family of person he killed for the trauma.
https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/bikes-and-biking/killing-cyclist-and-then-suing-family/
It WOULD be a BMW driver.
Well see, you’re not supposed to kick the car. You’re supposed to say “HEY! I’m walking heeyah!”
Not defending the shooter, he definitely had a severe over reaction to the situation. But dude had no fucking survival instincts. Why would you kick the 2 ton box of metal, powered by explosions and driven by someone who clearly doesn’t care about your safety? In the land driveby shootings no less.
powered by explosions
combustion [/pedantic mode]
Ehh, combustion is just slow explosions.
humans stuck together against apex predators to get to the point were we are today. I say we bring back the T-rex rarhhhh… We need apex predators or we get bored and kill ourselves
I see what you’re going for, but there are a couple things;
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The shooter shouldn’t have had a gun or the license to drive. If his mental state was that hair-trigger it’s a travesty that this combination of elements was allowed to happen.
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What other response would have been appropriate? Are you suggesting we should just passively allow bullies to do whatever they want?
So, more or less — no. If you think the appropriate reaction to almost being hit by a car is to throw your hands up and run away screaming, that’s the appropriate action for you. Not everyone is going to respond the same way, and being mad/lashing out about almost being critically injured is a perfectly reasonable response.
Well, choosing not to kick cars that belong to clearly dangerous people has never gotten me shot.
Honestly, I think choosing to move on is absolutely the best course of action. Kicking the car in some act of vengeance, or expression of (even justified) anger isn’t going to make things better but it might make things worse. That bullet could’ve hit anyone in the vicinity, and even if dude hadn’t pulled a gun, the car he was driving is just as deadly and has plenty of potential for collateral damage.
Like I agree with you that the shooter definitely shouldn’t be driving with that mental state of his, but just because he’s in the wrong doesn’t make it right to escalate things such that everyone around you is in danger too.
escalate things such that everyone around you is in danger too.
No — there’s no escalation past the guy almost hitting someone with his car. That is the point of escalation. If anything, kicking the car is a deescalation — because escalation would mean trying to kill the driver. Whether that’s shooting them, beating them to death, whatever. Because that is literally the level they were brought to by the driver/ shooter.
You’re essentially victim blaming by trying to suggest that the guy who kicked the car contributed to the escalation.
That being said, of course the best course of action is to leave. Not everyone is ok with almost dying and not giving the person who did it a piece of your mind. Unfortunately it played out like it did.
I mean, his death is not his own fault, and I’m not trying to say otherwise. This was murder, plain and simple. But kicking the car was still stupid, pointless and dangerous. Encouraging other people to follow this guy’s example is pointless, stupid, and dangerous.
This was murder
If you read the article you’d know that nobody died…
Encouraging other people to follow this guy’s example is pointless, stupid, and dangerous.
Absolutely not. If I were to extrapolate from your logic and follow it I’d never go outside because clearly the intelligent and safe thing to do is just never go outside.
Seriously, you are just wrong here. There will never be a world where kicking someone’s car after they almost hit you with it warrants being shot. It should not even occur to you to be something you can’t do, it is that far below the point the driver/shooter had already brought it to. To call it escalation means that you either don’t understand the meaning of the word or have alterior motives for dying on this hill.
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Why would you almost hit a pedestrian?
I’d actually recommend you don’t.
People might get mad at me for saying this but I think we should upgrade it from a recommendation to a strictly enforced obligation
You can’t do anything anymore. It’s political correctness gone mad.
Is this really the world you leftist nuts want???
Because the dude didn’t live a life of constant fear. He was a human being that almost got badly injured on a crosswalk, so he showed unregulated emotion, probably not with the intend of starting a fight for life or death, most probably because he did not think every other person is a psychopathic maniac.
“If ICE can do it why can’t I?”…that guy probably.
If the pedestrian had a gun, this never would have happened.
I just wish they would do it somewhere more appropriate like in a school.
Idk, the crosswalk would be still unarmed - needs some movement-sensor gun turrets.
Imagine that there IS indeed a company that caters to such needs
Note to Aperature Marketing:
This was a triumph!
Idk, those turrets would actually encourage travelling faster because their reaction time is so slow and easy to run over due to high centre mass.
I’m 75% sure that this is sarcastic and the upvoters believe this is sarcastic.
Yep, you’re correct!
I would say it’s “tongue in cheek”. Sarcasm, irony, absurdity of reality, all packaged together.
crossing flag < crossing brick < crossing glockOr if they had a car!
whats the difference?
Maybe even an arm
ored car.Stupid gunless pedestrians who don’t bring a car when walking…
“If my car failed to kill them my gun will!”
Don’t bring a ped to a car fight… with guns.
The pedestrian here was really at a disadvantage if you think about it.
in imperial dum dum yankkkeeland the pedestrian is a 2nd class citizen. In the core we serve and work for the pdfiles and the 4 legged gasoline guzzlers. We live our lives in the cracks and shaddows of stooopids.
Damn pdfs
So “attempted murder” because he’s bad at both driving and shooting.
Not a car issue… It’s a “Murica ma Gunz ar holy” issue.
it’s impossible not to call it a car issue. cars function as weapons against pedestrians, that’s why car murders are illegal but almost never carry the same sentence as shooting someone despite sometimes being more lethal than a handgun.
also calling gun violence an American phenomenon is a European’s way to soothe their own egos despite Germany frequently having lynchings by gun caused by Nazi cops. there’s a reason why BLM didn’t remain contained to USA and sparked massive uprisings in Europe
The car becomes a kind of psychological armour that can disinhibit normal social behaviour.
Behind the wheel, people often express emotions they would never display in face-to-face interactions. This disconnect between normal personality and driving behaviour suggests that cars can trigger different psychological states. Understanding this can help drivers recognise when their emotions are becoming problematic and take steps to regain control.
i agree with this statement from a page i’ve never heard of
There’s a lot truth in that. That’s why more and more morons buy those 2.5 ton space wasters of US production or of US style. Oh, can anyone tell me what’s the sports characteristica in Sport Utility Vehicle?
almost hit by car in a crosswalk. kinda a car issue to.
Nah. It was absolutely an asshole problem. Yes, a car was involved, but the problem was the human driver.
It’d be different if it were a self driving car. It would be like if you used a lawnmower to mow your lawn, ran over a beehive, and tgen blamed the lawnmower for getting attacked by bees. Or blamed the gun itself for the pedestrian getting shot.
both at face value if you subscribe to the idea that this has to be the way it is… people around the world don’t have our issues. Oh the land of milk and honey sprinkled with dummy. This type of stuff happens too often… it is like apart of our culture. Of cource venture capital and the tech bro have sum GREAT solutions.
Still a car issue.
Enjoy your attempted murder charge, asshole.
Yeah! At least the law still works for the poor fuckers.
Ianal but if he shot at him below the waist, he’d likely not get attempted murder. Assault/deadly weapon and whatever charges for discharging a weapon and road raging.
You’re not a lawyer so your opinion doesn’t matter. How do you know where he was aiming?
By reading the article.
No you didn’t. The article says where he shot him, not where he aimed. Those are not the same thing. You also conveniently ignored this part.
The pedestrian then kicked the Chevrolet, and the driver jumped out of the car, saying he was “going to kill him,” the police reports stated.
This was attempted murder. Dude just has shitty aim.
He also followed him for some time, which would make it hard to state this was not premeditated and a moment of passion.
People of Lemmy are just like reddit and want to be experts on all the things they don’t know about.
Okay but why is it relevant that you anal?
Narr, fuck guns.
smart people with guns are a danger to dictators. The infrastructor is our number one enemy. It produces anti-social behavior.
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People from Indiana are constantly fucking things up in Chicago.
