• Phantaloons@piefed.zipEnglish
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    4 months ago

    If my mind wanders away from it then back, I lose track and get annoyed, but it’s likely because I wasn’t paying attention and lost the plot a bit.

    Jazz speaks in a way. If you drift from it a bit, you lose the conversation.

    • dustyData@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Oh yes, Elton John, famous trumpet jazzy.

      (Love the good place, just watched that episode)

  • sicarius@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    This happened to me the first time I listened to BADBADNOTGOOD.
    Got through most of an album and thought “whoah, I’ve been listening to jazz for ages”.
    Tried some other jazz and thought “Hmm, maybe not”

    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      4 months ago

      The thing is, there are many kinds of jazz.

      Smooth jazz? Cool.

      Cool jazz? Sweet.

      Progressive jazz? Alright!

      Avant-garde? Err…

    • perishthethought@piefed.socialOPEnglish
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      4 months ago

      I’m no expert, but I think badbadnotgood is jazz fusion so that makes sense.

      And keep looking for jazz you might like. It grows on some of us, over time.

  • stochastictrebuchet@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Joined! Love jazz. Been trying to learn jazz guitar for the last 10 years. In phases, granted. This time around I’ve stopped caring about scales and have embraced voice leading and chromaticity. Finally starting to get it, I think. Also, there’s this amazing channel on YT: things i learned from barry harris

    • perishthethought@piefed.socialOPEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Oh! Guitar is my second fave instrument. I’m no player but I dig Charlie Christian and Johnny Smith the most. Check them out if you’ve not come across them yet.

  • RecursiveParadox@piefed.socialEnglish
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    4 months ago

    “You just ain’t never had it done right.”

    Old musician’s joke “Do it once, it’s a mistake; do it twice, it’s jazz.”

  • melfie@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Listening to a group just jamming in any genre is boring. Selecting the best parts and composing them into to a refined piece of music with a lot of deliberate thought behind it goes a long way towards creating something worthy of a listener’s time.

    • Soup@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 months ago

      You’ve never been to a bluegrass jam, then. That’s a party, and there’re plenty of songs to go along with the tunes, too. The solos are short and go off, and then you’re back at it. A song or tune only lasts so long and there’s always movement to keep it alive(which is why I didn’t say old time fiddle music since it’s also very repetitive).

      Jazz jams, as someone who swing dances, are generally incredibly meh. The core audience take themselves too seriously to create a fun atmosphere, and the solos all last waaay to long. They play for themselves, often to the point where even the band is disconnected from itself. My friend once played a recording of her friends at a jam for us to practice to and it was so bad that they weren’t even in time with eachother.

      Go to your local bluegrass jam and relax. Playing music with others is really important.

    • perishthethought@piefed.socialOPEnglish
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      4 months ago

      Oh man, I agree that sometimes jam sessions are boring, but I’ve heard many that are not.

      You do you, but for me, some jams are just sublime, the longer the better in those cases.

      For example -https://youtu.be/kAUs187IT4I

      Norman Granz’ Jam Session #2 (1953)
      Alto Saxophone – Benny Carter, Charlie Parker, Johnny Hodges
      Bass – Ray Brown
      Drums – J.C. Heard
      Guitar – Barney Kessel
      Piano – Oscar Peterson
      Tenor Saxophone – Ben Webster, Flip Phillips
      Trumpet – Charlie Shavers

      Real improv, real gone, man! :)

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Like Classical, Jazz is not a casual musical language. It requires extensive knowledge by both the artist and the listener.

  • Beethedude@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    4 months ago

    I think folks are just listening to the wrong jazz!

    Here’s a few modern jazz or jazz fusion song recommendations from me worth checking out:

    ‘Ramen! Yes!’, ‘XYZ’, and ‘Balloon Pop’ by Hiromi’s Sonicwonder (also credited separately as Hiromi and Sonicwonder)

    ‘Desire’, ‘Knowledge’, ‘Prologue’, and ‘Fists of Fury’ by Kamasi Washington

    and it’s bossa nova which I guess is technically samba not jazz, but I say close enough to still recommend ‘I Took the L’ by John Roseboro

    Bonus recommendation if you’re open to heavy music (this is death metal jazz fusion!):

    ‘Eb (D#)’, ‘IQ69Exaltations,’ and ‘deBroglieNeverExisted’ by ByoNoiseGenerator

  • Jaimesmith@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    4 months ago

    Jazz gives you 30 seconds of “I get it” followed immediately by where is this song going and why am I being chased?