Doesn’t using deadly force on a pregnant woman defeat the purpose entirely?
There is no purpose besides cruelty. Whatever the shittiest interpretaion is, that’s what the republicans are gonna want to go with.
Shhhh, logic is not allowed here.
Depends on what you think the true purpose of a law like this would be.
Using deadly force against a pregnant woman leads to a dying fetus. That’s just the same thing the long way around. It also gives an infinite loophole to use deadly force against someone using deadly force. Basically the whole country could kill itself legally, with only one person surviving 🤷🏻♂️
Not if you’re using deadly force against a doctor willing to perform an abortion, which is the more likely intent of the law.
Or the driver taking her somewhere. Or the person who called the driver.
And so on.
I didn’t even think of that. This is just gonna green light a lot of psychopathic behavior.
“Pro life”
It’s only pro life as long as the child is being carried.
Once the kids out, they don’t give a fuck about the woman or her child. They could both die, and they’d have no issue with it.
Oh, I know. Just pointing out the duality of their bullshit.
they don’t actually care about the child, or its mother, before it’s born, either. if they did, our health care system wouldn’t be a for-profit scam.
A lot of the lobbying money for anti healthcare stuff comes from woowoo supplement companies etc. Imo we should be regulating the shit out of those companies at every level of government. Ban advertising for the products to prevent false claims, etc.
And they wouldn’t be letting people use deadly force on pregnant women.
It’s only pro life as long as the child is being carried.
Not even then, at this point. Using ‘deadly force’ on a pregnant woman is not going to go well for the fetus.
How is this even pro life anymore T-T
It never was. “Pro-life” was just a weaponized slogan.
What they really stand for is “Forced birth” and “Promiscuous women should be punished”.
I was actually quite stumped by the “abortion is murder!” argument initially as it can get philosophical quick on what constitutes a life that can be “murdered” (i.e. does it have to be birthed, walking, able, etc, this is a bad summary)— but the spike in alt right violence against women, children, and just people in general in the US made the hypocrisy glaringly obvious.
but the spike in alt right violence against women, children, and just people in general in the US made the hypocrisy glaringly obvious.
A woman’s chance of getting murdered while pregnant (already distressingly high) has already increased significantly in states that outlawed abortion.
Promiscuouswomen should be punishedThere, fixed it for you. Nothing promiscuous about getting raped
Nothing promiscuous about getting raped
You and I know that, sure.
But conservatives love victim-blaming in rape cases.
“Did you see what she was wearing? Her collar bone and ankles were showing. Slut was asking for it, she probably liked it”
Ugh
Idk why babies don’t just pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Yep pro life ends at birth
“Pro quantity” vs “pro quality”.
“Pro Rape” imo.
She doesn’t even need to be pregnant, you just have to claim to believe she was about to commit an abortion. Free women murders for everyone!
It’s worse when you realize the bill isn’t about the woman, but her doctor.
Well that explains why it’s ok to kill a woman and therefore her fetus to prevent her from killing her fetus. It’s not, but you can keep every abortion doctor in the area to prevent them from performing the procedure.
Do you have to have “standing”? Like do you actually have to even know the woman or is this just an open bounty on doctors?
We already have a shortage of doctors as a whole and obstetricians have been fleeing red states for years now…
Now she’s getting it.
Voters hate women… you don’t have to vote for these ass clowns but you do anyway and I bet a significant portion of women vote for them., just as they do for Trump. in particular white women vote Trump
There’s no mystery. White women handed Trump the election
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-11-07/white-women-vote-donald-trump-kamala-harris
Lemme get this right…
If you see someone trying to kill a woman while claiming she’s trying to get an abortion, you can kill this attacker without issue under the legal classification of acting to protect two people, including a soon-born. Is this what Republicans want? To facilitate the legal argument to kill right-wingers? Because I’d be totally fine with that.
You can shoot someone who is threatening the life of another person anyway.
Or any doctor prescribed a morning after pill or installed a IUD
By similar logic, couldn’t one kill the legislators who passed this bill? They are clearly inviting violence upon pregnant women, so it should theoretically be legal to kill them in defense of those women if this bill passes.
don’t bring logic in here!
No, no, let em cook
you’d be legally right but the cops will still squeal up in their full military gear and shoot you all the same. Although to be fair they were probably going to do that anyway.
Yeah I mean, previous and current fascism being the same, having an extra legal avenue to kill a fascist is always welcome.
Republicans hate everything. They’re a brainless death cult only outclassed by Christians as a whole.
Yo, everyone, this is aimed at the doctors, regardless of their gender.
All abortion bills are aimed at women.
Women aren’t the only people who can get pregnant.
As long as you say “he’s abortioning right at me!” you can kill em and ain’t nothing Johnny Law can do about it
“Republicans hate women”
I think even republicans know that republicans hate women at this point
They’ve never made a secret out of it. Anyone who doesn’t see that lives in denial.
Wouldn’t the use of deadly force to prevent the abortion actually aid the abortion?
Look, if they thought things through they wouldn’t be Republicans.
I’m increasingly the opinion that Republicans don’t actually know where babies come from.
I mean Republicans are stupid and all but I think they’re intending for this to be a deterrent. It’s a stupid and cruel deterrent, but it’s probably not meant to somehow kill the woman without killing the baby.
it might not be meant for that, but it will be used to excuse that
essentially through the entire pregnancy people will get to be terrified as all it’d take to legally murder them would be making them look like they wanted an abortion
I’m pretty sure that I saw a depressing statistic about the number of pregnant women getting murdered now. An unfortunate number of men murder their pregnant wives/girlfriends.
Fortunately, the thing says it’s a bill, and not that it’s been passed into law.
If a state does pass a law like that, it’s hard to see why any sane woman would want to remain in that state.
Bills like these get passed quietly and in darkness. I agree with your sentiment, but it’s on us to build the uproar that prevents it from making it any further.
it’s hard to see why any sane woman would want to remain in that state
Plenty of people don’t want to stay in a place they are oppressed, but the thing about being oppressed is that it often also makes it hard to leave that place.
Because they don’t have money. Or are kids. Take your pick.
in texas, they have breeding facility for minors that got impregnated by ice agents, to hide the rape from the public.
