• Chozo@fedia.io
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    15 days ago

    Why does Candace Owens suck Charlie Kirk’s dead dick so hard? He famously hated black people, especially black women. He would not have gone to bat for her like she does for him.

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      This was pushed hard when it happened but I’ve never seen anything actually pointing to him being MAGA. He was raised in a right wing household but also dated someone trans and killed a right wing spokesman.

      His social media got nuked right away so not much on that side. It was probably a mixed bag which is maybe more dangerous to have in the news in terms of inciting copycats. Easier if both sides blame it on the other, wouldn’t want anyone to see himself in him.

      That being said, I don’t think his allegiance matters as much as the fact that Charlie deserved it. If you are punching Nazis, you are a good guy in my book.

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        He killed charlie kirk because charlie didn’t hate in the right way. So if you think the trash that killed the trash is a good guy then you are not a good guy.

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            I can give you sources laying out in exhaustive detail how the official story is bullshit, insultingly bullshit. a 30.06 iis a very powerful weapon that would’ve turned his neck into hamburger, he wasn’t shot with that gun. The shooter didn’t disassmeble that rifle in that little pack in 1 minute flat (and then assemble it later in a nearby chicken coop,) and the Sheriffs brought gun sniffing dogs through there, didn’t pick up a rifle, then the FBI shows up and finds it under their noses.

            Bullshit^3.

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            This isn’t reddit. If you want your hand held go there. I don’t remember what hate group he was with. I just remember the only thing they disagreed on was israel. Not all the other hate just that one shithole country. Like other unimportant things about right wing haters the only thing that is important is they are trash.

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              I don’t think anyone from Reddit ever held my hand. Jerking me off though, that’s a different thing.

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              My whole point is that I can’t find sources. I can’t find any actually reasoning behind it. I already looked.

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                I don’t have time to retrace it all. I know the right are saying he is left leaning but when it all came out his family were known members of some fringe ultra right wing hate group. Nothing I’ve seen since this has suggested its any different. You might start by looking at articles from around the the time it happened. Anything you see later than a few weeks after it happened is being produced for the bias of whoever is writing it. They can’t charge him federally and its really got trump and them mad.

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                  If you don’t have time to “retrace it all” it’s much better to say nothing instead of spreading misinformation.

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                  It seems like we are at a stale mate since I’m saying their isn’t any proper proof and you’re saying you don’t have time to find it.

                  I don’t give much credence to what his family’s beliefs were, he had moved out by then and it’s very possible his views had changed from theirs.

                  I don’t know about trump specifically, but I do know the right doesn’t like him, mostly because they think he was a leftist. It’s weird that both sides claim he belongs to the other and neither has anything but conjecture about it.

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        He was part of a group that thought maga was too soft. Any left in there was a buffer overrun.

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          If you mean the groypers, was that ever proven? It was an early accusation but I don’t remember seeing proof, other than groypers hate Kirk.

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          I saw a lot of articles saying that but I didn’t see any that had anything concrete. The whole thing seemed fishy at the time and even more so now with his trial essentially buried.

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          I don’t think that ended aligning with the facts. In all respects he would be “swing voter” in the midwest ; he was largely apolitical and killed kirk because kirk spread hate about people he cared about.

          Which is 100% true of charlie kirk no matter who you are. Kirk was anti women, anti trans, deeply racist, and deeply annoying. There is nobody who doesn’t have one of his hated groups in their family and who doesn’t have some reason to be annoyed by him.

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            MAGA just doesn’t think like that. They think putting women in their proper place isn’t anti women its pro women because if they have traditional values imposed upon them then they will have a more happy fulfilled life. For those with minority associates or family members that they don’t silently hate they rationalize that they are among the “good ones” Ask them if they hate black people and wait for them to tell you that they don’t they hate n words which are somehow different than black people. Their compartmentalization is perfect. They see no tension with believing black people in general are bad but the ones THEY know to be good are good.

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        While I don’t disagree, the story is bullshit. Somethings are off, obviously so. Cadence is actually mostly right on this.

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      Every single one of those little girls were in contact with The Human Fountain’s shooter every single day. Every. Single. Day.
      And they were all pleading with him to do that shooting. 6 year old Iranian schoolgirls are a formidable force that should not be trifled with!

      Or Candeath Omens is a cunt. It could be either…

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    I actually thought (I know, I’m stupid) that Candace genuinely cared about Kirk and was genuinely upset she lost her friend.

    But now I see she’s just milking his “legacy” for self promotion and grifting attention, just like the Erika.

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      from the way she talked about him on joe rogan, you would think she was a teenager having her first crush lol

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        Israel did kill him. Israel’s factions in the US, lines are blurry. They wanted to turn TP into a censor of schools, hitler youth, which it is now pursuing, Kirk had his own vision, and rejected their two board picks.

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          I don’t know how you can say that with such certainty. I will agree that he had previously been a nice little lapdog for Israel in the past and more recently had spoken out against them, but that’s not nearly enough to go off of to say “Israel totally 100% definitely killed him.”

          The guy was disliked by a lot of people.

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            It’s a preponderance of the evidence for sure. But knowing what we know about Israel, what I know from following the news ever day for 27 god forsaken years, it tracks. It fucking tracks. You better believe it. New World Order Bullshit right now, and we are doing fuckall about it. We need to organize, and get real leadership, outside the controlled opposition, but I’m a broken record on that. The fediverse is the answer, we need new social media. We have to start, now.

    • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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      I much prefer the real story about somebody killng charlie kirk because he was an annoying rich guy.

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        It can be both.

        Intelligence agencies love to gently nudge and provide support to someone who might do their dirty work for them.

        That said it’s way more likely they have kompramat on Trump and also that he is senile and thinks he is back in the 80s during the hostage crisis.

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      The comedic timing of that, perfect.

      But cadence is right, Israel’s faction in the US killed him, he rejected their vision for the organization for his own, rejected their two board picks, his widow accepted it all the disloyal cunt. Cadence, whomever that is, is not wrong about this.

      • Auth@lemmy.world
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        14 days ago

        Commenting multiple times throughout this thread trying to spread baseless conspiracy. Shameful behavior.

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          There is basis, that’s what I’m spreading. You defending the frame up is the disgrace. Eat a dick.

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    Sometimes the conspiracy theorists pop out of their echo chamber and make a statement that seems reasonable and widely accepted to them but can only be believed if you first believe 17 layers of propaganda, leaps of logic and generally brainrot. Usually all fed to them by bigots and billionaires.

    Then are then surprised by normal people clowning on them and instead of reflecting, they just tell themselves they know something the normies don’t and that makes them special.

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      I personally dont think this is far fetched. There seems to have been a cover up about his death. The alleged shooter was maga. Kirk was going against Israel, and could have been a significant problem and priority target for israel, but for anyone else, he was just a racist POS, and very low significance, if someone wished to assassinate with goals of slowing maga down.

      However, he was probably quite relevant for young people, so I could see it going either way, but I dont find the theory Israel was responsible is too much of a stretch, and it appears powerful people didnt want the public to learn too much about it.

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        The official story is bullshit. He was NOT hit with a 30.06, that rifle would have blown a fist sized hole out the back of his neck. The shooter didn’t dissassmble the rifle in 1 minute flat into that little bag. Then they don’t find the rifle with dogs the sheriffs bring around, but the FBI finds it fully assembled right under the dog’s noses?

        That is wrong on at least three scores. They are lying to us, obviously, lending credence to the Israel angle.

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      That’s why they all think that everyone’s secretly a Nazi only they are too afraid to admit it, which is why they are constantly surprised by all of the public backlash whenever they do their nazi things.

      Of course that’s daft, the real Nazis have never been afraid to tell everyone who they are. Even when no one was asking.

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      It’s worse than an echo chamber that they have. It’s isolated improv. They aren’t just agreeing, they’re "yes and"ing. Collective world building without critical thought, disagreement, or awareness that it isn’t how reality works.

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        They are “roleplaying” with each other. Telling lies and conspiracy stories that they know are fiction, but MAGA is actually tolerant of other MAGA and as long as you are telling fiction about something that is close to MAGA they will pretend to believe it.

        Except about 10% actually take that batshit crazy stuff serious.

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          You know that makes me want to post

          Back in 2016, there was something amazing: /r/TheDonald/

          I was following that in amazement. Donnie T capitalized on the army of detached dummies (deplorables) that had been cultivated by decades of Fox News (-style media). They were so detached that even mainstream republicans couldn’t get a hold - Donnie T would just go further.

          And by the time the 2016 election got closer, that /r/ would just go more unhinged. All the Dems and old Reps were (satanist) pedo’s and if Donnie jusy got elected, he’d have them hang before the end of his first month.

          Crazily, the rest of them never opposed them. They didn’t call them out on it. They just went along as if they were some kind of aligned faction.

          Of course after they won there were some holdouts wondering out loud when the massive pedo roundups were going to happen, but after a while that fizzled out.

          Most of them are more than happy to ally themselves with the complete loonies

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            It clicked for me when I noticed that a lot of MAGA were just trolling. They go out in their “regalia” with Trump flags flying and see who they can bother. They like it when they get to yell and scream at “the libs” when they get yelled at for their flag … its a social game.

            Its the same as listening to each other tell obviously fake stories. “What?!? JFK Jr. is not dead? He is coming back to be Trumps running mate?” “What? Micheal Jackson isn’t dead?”

            Corporate billionaires then weaponized this. Hatred sells. That is a commercially proven fact. The woke agenda is born. Trans hatred. Gay pride. They focused in on things that made MAGA a little uncomfortable and started telling their own lies and stories about them and MAGA goes along with it because they dont want to get kicked out of “the game”.

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    “And its still the utmost tragedy that he was so mercilessly slaughtered.”

    “And the US soldiers and civilians in Iran that have been killed since the illegal war actually started?”

    “Ehh, these things happen.”