Example, putting ketchup on a perfectly cooked ribeye steak at a nice restaurant.

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      My grandmother was purported to have frequently said that this was the only true crime.

      Of course, she lived through Jim Crow, WWII, and The Korean War, so she overlooked a few other massive crimes, but she was a young adult living in the dust bowl when the Great Depression hit, so I think it’s reasonable for that to have been pretty formative for her.

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        My parents grew up in the ruins of post WWII Germany, so that has certainly impacted their raising of me.

        But even setting that aside, deliberately wasting food is a disrespect to all the life that needed to end for you to have it. Be it flora, fauna, or fungi.

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    I rarely see the words restaurant and ketchup in the same sentence.

    If a nice restaurant brings ketchup with the steak I will think it is part of the recipe for some reason and I’ll try some.

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    I don’t see why people shouldn’t do things that let them enjoy their food more. I’m not the one eating it, it doesn’t matter whether I like it.

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    Putting any seasoning on a meal you are served without tasting it first.

    If it is not to your liking, then add the ketchup, steak sauce, salt, whatever, but at least try it first. 1) Out of respect for those who prepared it. 2) You might find that you enjoy it as it is.

    Now if you prepared it, by all means, do whatever you want to it.

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      I think it’s fair if the food is prepared by someone whose cooking you know well. Like if my wife makes something, I will always have salt and some spices ready because I know it’s not going to be seasoned well. And I feel just putting some salt on in that case is better than always going through the process of tasting and only then going to the spice rack or something.

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      Reminds me when I spent several hours cooking a cubano sandwich and my brother just added tonkatsu sauce to it before ever tasting it. I begged him to taste it first, I’ve nvr even seen him add tonkatsu sauce randomly like that, but nope

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        I can’t find a link to verify this story, but I remember reading a story that an officer was given the opportunity to eat with Napoleon, and he seasoned his food before he took a bite, and it ruined his military career.

        Napoleon decided that that person was not worthy of being entrusted with an army because he wouldn’t even try what was presented in front of him before changing it.

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          Ok, to start I completely agree… but for devil’s advocate sake where is the dividing line?

          Let’s say cheese pizza with red pepper flakes; you like your cheese pizza with a little bit of spice on it but otherwise don’t want any other toppings on there.

          If you and a few friends are ordering cheese pizza together from a local place that you haven’t tried yet, would it still be wrong to add the pepper flakes before trying the plain cheese pizza first?

          There is a bit of generalization here because I know there are millions of variations of cheese pizza and some wildly different takes around the world but for the most part the vast majority of cheese pizza, especially from a standard, local to you, take out/delivery spot, has a small standard deviation from the norm.

          Or put another way, does someone have to try a french fry plain first before they dip it in ketchup if they know they like their french fries with ketchup?

          Is this rule more specifically geared towards fine dining, less fast food/mass produced type of foods/eating establishments?

          Sorry if my autism is showing here but I do like hearing other people’s take on the narrow grey area between black and white social situations/faux-pas’.

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            Good questions. In my opinion, I think if it is fast food or delivery, do whatever you wish. Similarly, if it is a food you’ve had at a place before and remember it needed more of XYZ spice/sauce, it is fair to add it prior to eating.

            For new experiences, especially with company, at a nice restaurant, or at someone’s home, definitely taste first.

            But in the end, as a fellow poster stated, life is too short, enjoy whatever makes you happy.

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              I would add to it that this was also not fast food, like in Napoleon’s time, each meal had to be cooked personally, so you may not know what the chef was doing, you don’t know necessarily what to expect. So I think Napoleon’s reasoning in that case was that you should try what the chef prepared for you to see if you like it as is before you start altering it.

              After all, like food science was very much in its infancy at that time, so you can eat the exact same meal prepared by the exact same recipe by two different chefs and have two wildly different food experiences.

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    eating raw chicken? eating straight salt with a spoon?

    but if you wanna put ketchup on a steak? Id hate that. however its someone elses food. I wouldnt yuck their yum

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      Raw chicken is a delicacy in Japan

      I’ve yet to have the balls/reckless-abandon-for-my-bowels to try it

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        I’d hardly call it a delicacy. I’ve had it a couple of times and hate the texture.

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          The term delicacy typically is to do with things like the rarity/speciality of the food and care/attention during preparation. It doesn’t necessarily mean tastes amazing or anything like that

          I’d guess a lot of people would feel similarly about many foods considered delicacies.

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        I would trust the quality of Japanese chickens infinitely more than others’. They seem to take their food products pretty dang seriously, like their ridiculously perfect fruits.

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          It’s still not fine lol. It carried an insane salmonella risk even in Japan. It’s just one of those traditional dishes that get overlooked on safety in favor of tradition. Japan’s health department strongly discourages it because of the extreme risk of salmonella.

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    Laughing at any culture because of their food. It’s bad manners. This pairing or method of cooking might be strange to you, but it is someone else’s culture, and they enjoy it. The least you can do is approach their traditions with curiosity.

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      Cultural relativism is fine. Doesn’t mean talking about things counter to your experience/preference isn’t interesting.

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    Hot honey on pizza, liquid candy bbq sauce, meat candy generally. Definitely most ketchups. I’m largely against added sugars in most foods that aren’t desserts or otherwise typically include a savory/sweet component (citrus or teriyaki glazed poultry for ex, also Japanese curry is often made with a dollop of honey and I get it but not mine). People’s ‘chili’ recipes with too much honey or brown sugar, it’s chili, it’s kinda supposed to be deeply savory/spicy? Not everything is or has to be a sweet treat, but it feels like nothing is sacred or safe from the candyfication effect that seems increasingly popular. I’d never say anything to anyone making or ordering their sugary product of choice but I do think about it a lot.

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      I understand your dislike of added sugar though I think it does add some complexity to certain foods. Just FYI, if you ever are in an area and see a food made ‘Amish Style’ it mostly means they added sugar and sometimes other seasonings.

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    There are none. With all the bullshit going on now, life is far too short to criticize anyone for their taste in food and food combinations.

    Everyone- eat what makes you happy. Find the bliss in the small things. And ignore anyone that thinks you should be ashamed for the things that you enjoy.

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    Heating day old pizza is to be done on low in a covered skillet - all other methods are objectively inferior.

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      Wouldn’t that make it kinda soggy?

      I put mine under the broiler till the toppings start to burn.

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        No it doesn’t become soggy and the slightest, in fact the crust becomes even more crispy and delicious.

        As the other person said, add enough drops of water to keep it from drying out.

        Try it, you will find this could be a superior method! Personally I like to let it sit on very low for like 20 minutes, but everyone’s different