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        Yes, he respects it so much he outbombed George Bush and managed to deport more people than Trump.

        But looks nice, so that’s cool.

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          Signed off on the expansion of the patriot act. Gaslighted cannabis legalization. Didn’t create a UHS. Insurance companies cried crocodile tears but profits went up. I voted for that. It’s like watching WWE and thinking it’s real.

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    How much of this is him legitimately meaning it? And how much is it to shore up the willingness of cronies to break the law.

    Like, if he’s not going to be there in 3 years to pardon and protect them from prosecution, then them breaking the law for him is very personally risky. He might be more concerned about the short term willingness of his underlings to keep sticking their necks out.

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    I feel they will amuse and placate him up to the point where Congres has to vote on it and then, as it is the end of his term, they can turn on him with little fear of retribution

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        If extra-judicial execution is good enough for a one year old, then it’s good enough for the toddler in chief.

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      Who’s going to do the first step though? The police? The police that are bought and paid for by the people that should be arrested? The police that are actively murdering people in the streets instead of defending them?

      I keep seeing this “arrest them” and “put them in jail for life” sentiment but nobody has a valid argument of how to do that in our current system without getting disappeared.

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    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice

    Those are the exact words of the 22nd amendment. It’s explicit. There’s no ambiguity or room for other interpretations. Trump was elected twice, he’s hit his limit, that’s it.

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      Unless those rumors are true and they did manage to game enough voting machines to clinch the election. In which case he was not actually elected twice…

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        …and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

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          And that’s why Vance and the other fascists are waiting until after the midterms to get rid of trump.

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            Vance is such a thoroughly unpleasant asshole. Of course, I thought the same thing about donnie for years.

            But I don’t think “JD” “Vance” has this weird hold on the idiots like donnie does. I guess we’ll see.

            Shrug. Somehow, Ted Cruz manages to get elected and it doesn’t seem that anyone really likes him.

            I suppose if the Democrats run a woman and/or someone non-xtian or non-white, there will be people that find a way to support “JD”, I guess.

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        There better be a real fucking riots in the streets across the entire damn nation if they come out with this bullshit.

        Like I mean burning down federal buildings and police stations, storming the homegrown concentration camps to free the prisoners, a literal million+ person march on Washington DC right to the front door of the White House.

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            How exactly do you guys think riots would go?

            Do you think Trump would just say, “guess they don’t like me, I’ll leave office”?

            Or do you think he would brutally crack down on everyone against him?

            Riots would be the casus belli he wants to take military control of the country

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              Idk man. They did fly the army apache over them last time there was a big protest in Tennessee and then that time they did that weird stuff with firing the missiles in Cali. You’re right, but something has to change, I think we’re supposed to be brave and strong and united instead of shocked daily and then retreating, frightened, back under a rock to safety.

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          Like the riots when an insurrectionist was allowed to run for a second term after being ruled ineligible by a State?

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            But the Roberts Court, dontchaknow, intervened and went directly against the Constitution and made a BLATANTLY unconstitutional ruling that should have invalidated literally all of their appointments.

            Trump was ineligible for the second term, whether or not the Roberts Court wanted to acknowledge it.

            And hell will freeze over before I give those judges on the Roberts Court the dignity of referring to them with the words that other people call them or that court.

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        Its not the general votes that matter. Its the electoral college. So even if they cheated he was still elected twice.

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          Sounds like the foundation of our Democracy was built on quick sand, and the cement poured by the shadiest cheapest contractor capitalism could buy.

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        “Sorry everyone, I used my hall-pass to get re-elected so it didn’t count… wah, I wanna be Mr.President again! Gimme, gimmie, gimmie”

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        It does specify that he has to be a person. Perhaps they’re going to argue he isn’t?

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          In a wild turn of events, he’s gonna change his name to Deborah and run as our first trans President, claiming the transition resulted in him being a different person.

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      The one weasel notion that I wonder about, what if he was elected VP and the president stepped down directly after? Then he wasn’t elected a 3rd time but placed by successions. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them try some such fuckary.

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        I don’t remember the exact wording, but basically to be eligible to be VP one must meet the eligibility requirements for being President. So he’s not eligible to be VP either.

        But I recall someone claiming that no such eligibility requirement exists for Speaker of the House, who is in the succession line after the VP.

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      No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice

      This is why is fun to own a whole ass supreme court:

      No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice

      Words are fun for this guy

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      Yes, and none of that prohibits him from running for office again. The only prohibition is that he cannot be elected a third time. But here’s the thing: we don’t actually vote for President; we vote for who our Electors elect as President, and they are Constitutionally prohibited from electing Trump to a third term. If Trump runs and “wins”, the Electors cannot elect him. He can win 0 Electoral votes. Doesn’t matter what their States’ laws require because the Constitution is the highest law in the land… until SCOTUS rules the 22nd Amendment violates the 10th Amendment. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      Sure, but we didn’t enforce the 14th amendment section 3, which clearly states that he shouldn’t be president currently.

      No one enforced our laws, so we have NO LAWS.

      Which means, he can just run for president again and if no one enforced the law then it could happen again.

      I agree with you on the law, but NO ONE IS ENFORCING ANY LAWS LATELY!!! So what the fuck does any of it even matter anymore? Hmm?

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      So it sounds like there’s no prohibition against running, just against winning? Sounds like an easy win for the Dems.

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        It seems pointless to run in an election you are constitutionally barred from winning. But, Trump has proven time and time again he will do pointless things. If he tried running again and somehow he won, however, the constitution is clear: it’s a no go. He can’t get elected for a third time. That said, I don’t think that’s necessarily the point. I think the point is to create chaos and crisis. Hopefully he’s not around to run in 2028 so it becomes a moot.

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      It doesn’t matter what it says when neither courts nor law enforcement will enforce it. Looks like we’re running out of democracy boxes.

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      There’s wiggle room, he’s claiming a right to campaign. To run… He’s not saying anything about being elected.

      He doesn’t actually do the electing. That’s up to public, and the officials who are in charge of elections (who he’ll try to stack with loyalists). He can’t say what they’ll do.

      He runs, and if others elect him… Well… That’s the wiggle room.

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        That’s not wiggle room, it’s violating the Constitution. Not saying it can’t happen, but it’s not like that’s a logic loophole, it’s just not caring about acting illegally.

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      Well, he can run again. It’s just moot, as he can’t be elected. If he were to get the most electoral votes, I guess the runner up is elected?

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      No person

      Ah that’ll be where he’s trying to get in again then I assume, cause he’s not a person, he’s a monster

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      “But what if it means two in a row!?!?!!?”

      That’s a literal claim from some Republicans.

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        No no it has to be the first term, interrupted, then second, then third. The reason? Because they need to exclude Obama from running again.

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        And why wouldn’t it be?

        To be a Republican is to be a grifter/conman/shitstain. Cheating is always on the table.

        I know it’s hard to plan for all eventualities, but I really wish the founding fathers had covered things in a little more detail.

        “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice…regardless of whether the terms are consecutive.”

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          The founding fathers didn’t come up with the 22nd amendment, that was done in the late 40’s after FDR was elected four times in a row. The founding fathers intentionally left that one open, I think

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            Yes, it was intentional. They wanted the Constitution to be revised and expanded as necessary, rather than being bad law set in stone. They were well aware they couldn’t foresee the many issues that would come up, especially over time. That’s why the Constitution is often described as a “framework” for the US’s “laboratories of democracy”.

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      They genuinely don’t care. I’ve seen many clips of republicans, the whole country over, saying they’ll figure out a way to get him in a third term.

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    In the third term, he’s gonna lower the price of gas and groceries & end the wars in Ukraine/Iran. Day 1. Bigly.

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        It’s a bigly plan, the most beautiful plan. You can’t see it, but many people are saying it’s the greatest perfect plan ever.

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          At this point I would vote democratic just to have a president who can speak well. We had a chuckle at the Bushification of the language but 14+ years of it getting worse is just tiresome.

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        If we understand “now” as less of a time stamp, and more of a constantly shifting, meaningless word, it all makes sense.

        I heard the new healthcare plan is dropping two weeks from “now”! And the Iran war and the genocide in Gaza will end two weeks from “now”! Oh, and Venezuela will be up and running with their new for-US-profit systems two weeks from “now” so we won’t have to steal their resources ourselves! Go Trump go!