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Lol! Keep Reddit safe. They just want that sweet sweet marking info!
Fuck reddit
Don’t you understand? Reddit is in DANGER from users NOT BEING LOGGED IN!
That’s not really what that means, they don’t want people scraping reddit, which is much easier on old reddit.
Yeah I know I just thought it was funny that the first line is, we need to keep Reddit safe.
Think of all the horrible CSAM posts I can flood reddit with while NOT LOGGED IN! They must be in shambles!
To be fair, the likely reason in this case is AI companies mass-downloading Reddit posts for their training runs. You can’t really cache the internet, so from what I understand, every training run they scrape this stuff anew.
For many smaller sites, it’s effectively a denial-of-service attack, which is why lots of them have put up this thing:
For Reddit, it might just be additional traffic that they have to pay for and which doesn’t give them any profit. Although, if Reddit is still as unstable as it was years ago, I also wouldn’t be surprised, if they got DoSed by that a few times as well.
Lol reddit’s already a mined wasteland.
What you say is true, but not the reason. Part of reddit’s business model is selling its data to AI companies. So they just don’t want to give it away for free
selling its data
Correction, selling its users’ data.
Reddit doesn’t make content, it just hosts content that its users submit for free and charges other people to access it.
I mean, that’s a lot of companies that do this.
Oh, well, if lots of companies do it, I’m sure we’ll all be fine.
You cannot, and never could, post without logging in.
I think it was a sarcastic attack on the claim that forcing you to log in for read-only access to the website is in any way keeping anything safer than it was.
It wants you inside of it
Can’t even access reddit at all with my VPN turned on now.
Change your server.
Change your social media.
But why. It’s too much bullshit from reddit, just intolerable at this point.
Why should I change when it’s Reddit that sucks?
Ok then, don’t.
“Can’t even access Reddit at all with my VPN turned on now, and that’s why I don’t use Reddit anymore.”
This does not invite solutions. If you write it this way, you won’t have to get mad at people who reply trying to help you.
I thought the context of this being in a thread about reddit being “absolute bullshit” about removing people’s ability to access the site would’ve indicated that I’m not actually not actually asking for help on accessing reddit.
I’m just providing another data point about how reddit sucks.
Well, it didn’t.
Just deleted a Reddit account that was created in 2009 - I could no longer justify generating revenue of any kind for that $hitty company. The only reason they do literally anything is for money, nothing else
You forced me to delete my account when you banned me for “abuse of report button”
After the API thing broke the moderator tools, abusing the report button was the only way to protest
So what? Fuck reddit.
Where do you think most of the content on here comes from?
Yeah, fuck Reddit, but there’s a lot of good information up there, even if it’s currently run by paedophiles. People who were on Twitter before Elon Musk bought it still enjoy their communities even though the site is owned by an AI company that generates CSAM.
Why does every discussion, especially on Lemmy, eventually turn into “it’s run by a pedophile” or “it’s owned by billionaires”?
Reddit is a publicly traded company. Steve Huffman is still the CEO. From what I can tell, the largest shareholders include Tencent and Advance Publications, along with various institutional investors.
Could there be pedophiles working at those companies or individuals who own Reddit stock? Maybe. That’s true of practically any large corporation. It doesn’t mean Reddit is “run by pedophiles.”
And for the love of God, can we stop bringing up Elon Musk every five minutes? I’m exhausted by people forcing him into conversations that have nothing to do with him. Whether you love him or hate him, not every discussion needs to revolve around the same handful of public figures.
My problem isn’t with criticizing Reddit. Criticize the company all you want when it’s deserved. My problem is replacing factual criticism with lazy slogans and guilt-by-association. If you’re going to criticize a company, criticize what it actually does, not some cartoon version of who you imagine owns or controls it.
Why does every discussion, especially on Lemmy, eventually turn into “it’s run by a pedophile” or “it’s owned by billionaires”?
It’s the jerk. Everything is the fault of billionaires (never mind that they actually don’t own most stuff), and every billionare has all possible negative personality traits.
Occasionally, we manage to have actual intelligent conversations, in between all the huffing our own upvotes.
Well as of about 6 months ago, Steve Huffman is a billionaire.
Okay, so if you were to get banned from Reddit because you said that paedophiles should face harsher legal consequences, you wouldn’t think that maybe the site is run by paedophiles? So maybe you appeal, maybe you caught one bad apple, but then it’s upheld by a second one. Then I think it’s absolutely fair to say the site is run by paedophiles. And I think that’s deserved.
True, you didn’t have all the facts. I’m not gonna tell the story every single time. So maybe that’s on me. Maybe you feel like I pulled a bait and switch.
It sounds like you’re just tired of hearing about the bad shit the ruling elite do. Not much for that, I’m afraid.
I think who financially owns a company is largely irrelevant, whether they’re saints or pedophiles. In this case, reducing the discussion to “immoral billionaires” or mythical dragons hoarding wealth misses the point entirely.
Reddit is a publicly traded social media and news aggregation platform with ownership spread across institutional investors, including a major publishing conglomerate and a large Chinese technology company. The possibility that some wealthy individuals connected to those organizations may be immoral is, to me, one of the least interesting aspects of the discussion. There are far more substantive issues surrounding Reddit’s ownership, governance, moderation policies, business incentives, and corporate structure than the personal character of people at the very top.
For example, if someone is banned after criticizing a public figure, what is the more plausible explanation? That Reddit is deliberately protecting a specific pedophile because of who they are, or that moderators or administrators are enforcing a political or ideological preference? The latter strikes me as vastly more likely. If you’re trying to explain why moderation decisions happen, political bias or inconsistent enforcement is a much more convincing explanation than a coordinated effort to shield particular criminals.
Focusing on whether a billionaire somewhere in the ownership chain is a bad person is like criticizing cars because they produce CO₂. It’s true, but it’s so obvious and commonplace that it contributes very little to understanding the actual issue.
There’s so many niche communities I used to rely on Reddit for. Bike commuting, DIY, sous vide recipes. I like this place but it’s just not the same. And I feel like once it starts getting to the same size it will get enshittified like everything else. Ugh
There’s !micromobility@lemmy.world and a couple other bike commuting communities but they’re less active.
Well heck I appreciate it 😃
Well luckily (for now) you can still read any posts there without logging in if you follow the link from a search engine.
If you are looking for a specific post copying the address into google and clicking on it from there for instance will get you the reddit post without logging in.
OP showed a screenshot for
old.reddit.comwhich is the older UI from ~2014. I have a rewrite rule in an extension that turns all reddit links into this to get the better old UI even when clicking through from a search engine result, and got the same message a few hours ago.I literally just did it to make sure you could before I posted this. It still works as of this post.
Click on the link inside of that link and boom no login. (you may need “old reddit redirect” I don’t know what extension you are using to reach old reddit)
I have Old Reddit Redirect and your link takes me to the Reddit login page.
End of last month they announced a login would be required even to just view old dot reddit. At the moment it seems like they might be A/B Testing it. A handful of people are still reporting that old dot works, but myself and many others can no longer access it - being redirected to a login prompt.
“Oh well,” I say. I won’t be creating an account.
(Supposedly the RSS is still accessible. You might look into that. I’m considering scripting up something I can throw a URL into that gets the useful info out - for the occasions when Reddit is a top result for a tech question or the like.)
hmmm, maybe it’s the extension that’s not passing the referrer information in my case? I am using “Old Reddit Redirect”. The URL in that search result still shows
www.reddit.comwhen I hover over the link, and when I open it and the browser extension changes the URL toold.reddit.comwhich is where I get the login prompt.I guess other extensions might rewrite the link destination, but then that would require more access to the extension to read/write the contents of every site visited, which is too much for me.
Oh I agree it’s too much work but should you need it there is at least a work around
I’m actually okay with this if it means more people get to check out old reddit. That said, I’m a bit confused: why is reddit now requiring all accounts to log into old reddit? I thought they wanted everyone using the new site? Did they have a change of heart? It’s kind of odd to force people to visit the old site to login now, you know?
Furthermore, why are you looking at new reddit to begin with? I go directly to the old.reddit URL so I never see messages like this (they only pop up if you’re on new reddit). If it was unintentional, you can use Old Reddit Redirect to solve that problem.
I think you must’ve misread, it’s old reddit that you can’t see anymore without logging in
Well they could have worded “accounts are required to access old reddit” a lot better.
I can’t believe how bad it is now. There is no real news. It used to be interesting but it’s so watered down that it’s basically pointless. Couple that with the quality of major news outlets, and we’re basically experiencing a media blackout.
I’d add the ubiquity of paywalls these days contributes a lot as well. We used to have it so good.
404 media will allow reading with an account. I’m not sure of another way they can pay bills. I hear you, just don’t have an answer. I hate giving out my email for everything too.
and the AI rage bait posts that are honey pots for pissed off venting that leads to Bans.
I used to hit reddit forums for internet queries because they are usually at the top of search engines. Now I blow right past them to the next in theme answers (steam for gaming for example) because the join us we are a cult splash screen is annoying. Anyone that is going to create a reddit account/use the app ALREADY IS. The enshittification is so painfully bad.
Is this some kind of slow roll out or did you attempt to POST something? Cuz I ain’t getting this message on old reddit.
Probably staggered, or something dumb like by subreddit.
For it once day before yesterday, then next visit no prompt. Same browser, computer, different subreddit. Same subreddit yesterday and no prompt.
I just got it around 1800 pst last night. Last nail in the coffin for me. 20ish years done
You can still subscribe to reddit sub’s using RSS feeds (for now, they’re planning to discontinue RSS sadly). Then open it using redlib and LibRedirect browser extension.
It’s okay, a lot of criminals, surveil it.
reddit is a fucking dumpster fire if you aren’t logged in… when i first joined lemmy i would still occasionally visit reddit when i got bored, but i wasn’t logging in and holy shit its a fucking cesspool!
It is all bots. The actual remaining humans are there to make the same recycled jokes and argue with each other.
It is nice to not be on it (or here) constantly.
Yeah, you can’t talk there without risk of getting banned off the platform by chance. Sucks because a lot of well-built communities are there and most of what you need to ask can be found there.
The power move is to see that and never return. Let their analytics show you didn’t give in and won’t be giving them any more telemetry/user data/content.
