For me it’s saying, “we can’t joke about anything anymore”. Sirens go off immediately 🚨

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      my favorite is they append the insult as conclusion. they make an argument and claim ‘and if you can’t understand this you’re a dipshit’. and this is their ‘flawless logic’ that shows that you are a dipshit, but definition of the argument they have made…

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        No and see that’s the funny thing. I’ve had people try to call me stupid or the r slur, but like, they couldn’t even be bothered to spell “you are” you’re correctly. That always makes me laugh, because oh the irony!

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    “Actually, we’re a constitutional republic…” & “Our thoughts and prayers…” are both candidates, I could come up with way more.

  • Words that used unironically/outside of satire, automatically signal you as a chud:

    • Libtard

    • Foid

    • Carnist

    • Lookmaxxing

    • Mog/Mogging

    • Any kind of slur

    • Woke (at least, the word is generally only brought up now by chuds complaining about things being woke)

    • DEI in a negative manner

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      Controversial maybe, but I think you missed “slop” in regular conversation, specifically hybrid words (see microslop). It’s one thing to write about it in an AI thread, but douchey to me if you bend a conversation to it then say it out loud.

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          There’s a little space between being pro-AI and refraining from shoe-horning really clever burn words like “slop”, “clown”, and “dumb” into the names of things. It shows the same mastery of derision and humor as playground fart jokes. Chuds trot those out, and it’s a huge eyeroll; we can do better.

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        Giving you an upvote because I think this is a legitimate position, but I strongly disagree. AI has become so pervasive in our lives that it’s extremely difficult to avoid even offline, so I see no problem with someone saying in an irl conversation, “I wish my mom would stop sending me AI slop videos” or “I can’t help but feel paranoid I’m going to wake up one morning and find out I’ve lost my thesis work to the latest microslop update” or “I’ve started dreading work ever since they hired ‘workslop Bill’”

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      I was telling a customer that he had to wear a mask to enter my place of business during COVID masking mandates, and he got furious and called me a “white privilege redneck libtard” and I’m just astonished at that particular combination of words to angrily shout.

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        If I understand it right it’s basically polishing your external appearance to a high degree. Hair, skincare, etc… but I’ve seen it mostly used to describe people using the technique transactionally. Like incels doing it with the expectation that doing so will result in a girl appearing for them.

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        I think the way to read the whole -maxxing suffix is “to maximise what comes before”

        So lookmaxxing is maximising one’s looks. I find the usage of the double x irksome, personally.

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      “Mog” is the funniest word this generation has come up with. I don’t use it, but I must admit that I chuckle nearly every time I hear it used.

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        I believe “carnist” is used by more radical vegan/vegetarians to refer to meat-eaters

        And I’m pretty sure “foid” is incel for “women”, femoid became f-oid became foid.

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          Mod of /c/vegan@lemmy.world, and we use “carnist” pretty regularly. “Carnist” either means supporting carnism (“carnist rhetoric”) or someone who subscribes to it (“a carnist”), where carnism is (I think Wiktionary puts it best):

          The human ideology that supports the slaughter of certain animals and the consumption of their meat or other products (leather from skin, etc).

          By contrast, a meat-eater is more broadly an “omnivore” or “omni”. This will vary by person, but “carnist” will be used over “omnivore” when the person isn’t just passively participating in the system but actively arguing in support of the ideology behind it.

          It’s a term very rarely seen outside vegan circles, so it’s stunning to see on a list like that; I wonder if Kolanaki talked with a vegan, said some stupid shit, got called a “carnist”, and has been big mad ever since.

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            I think it is probably because it gets used in a way where it takes on a slur-like connotation. It feels a bit complicated to this onlooker; vegan and non-vegan would seem like adequate terms at first glance, but because “vegan” is overloaded (it’s both used to describe a diet of non-animal by/products and the broader social movement of advocating against the same) it feels a bit lacking.

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              it’s both used to describe a diet of non-animal by/products and the broader social movement of advocating against the same

              Actually, in circles where “carnist” would be used, “vegan” has a very clear distinction, and it’s the latter. Whether they’ve seen it or not, veganism in those circles will be roughly the Vegan Society’s definition*:

              Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms [which we don’t use] it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals.

              Somebody who’s solely on a plant-based diet (i.e. abstaining from animal products in their food) would be called just that: “plant-based”. The reason “carnist” is used is, like I said, to denote active support for the ideology and not just passive consumption. Plenty of people will go their entire lives without meaningfully engaging with the ideology behind the food they eat, the clothes they wear, etc., which is where the “omnivore” and “carnist” terms come in.

              “Carnism” makes veganism a lot easier to discuss, because simply “vegan or non-vegan” places carnism in a position of inherent normalcy. Imagine another movement (especially a minority one) that could only describe anyone in terms of “us or non-us”. Positioning carnism as an ideology (which it objectively is) challenges its otherwise unchallenged position.


              * Notably, The Vegan Society is the origin of both meanings.

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                Wouldn’t you want to use “vegan” to describe the diet and “veganist” to describe the ideology, then?

                “Carnism” makes veganism a lot easier to discuss, because simply “vegan or non-vegan” places carnism in a position of inherent normalcy. Imagine another movement (especially a minority one) that could only describe anyone in terms of “us or non-us”. Positioning carnism as an ideology (which it objectively is) challenges its otherwise unchallenged position.

                Having a word for “non-us” doesn’t really prevent the word from being used rhetorically in an “us vs. them” way, though… and there are plenty of other minority movements that were defined by that same kind of binary language (most of them are not remembered fondly.)

                I guess the point I am trying to make is, if your hypothesis is true, that terminology isn’t widely understood outside of vegan circles. If you write a paragraph at someone and they would have to look up a half dozen words to even understand your point, they are much more likely to dismiss you as some kind of radical and/or loon rather than spend the time. It’s kind of like when you stroll into a philosophy or politics discussion and your brain balks at all the lingo.

                They walk away thinking a vegan said some stupid shit to them, the vegan walks away thinking some stupid shit was said to them, and the interaction is a failure for all parties.

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                  Wouldn’t you want to use “vegan” to describe the diet and “veganist” to describe the ideology, then?

                  No; “veganism” is the ideology, and a “vegan” is someone who practices it. Having “vegan” and “veganist” solves nothing and would be vastly more confusing. The Vegan Society correctly appends the “dietary” part as an afterthought.

                  Having a word for “non-us” doesn’t really prevent the word from being used rhetorically in an “us vs. them” way, though…

                  Not the point I was making. The point is that giving it a name (“carnism”) positions it as an ideology (which it is) instead of just some inherently baseline, default position.

                  It’s kind of like when you stroll into a philosophy or politics discussion and your brain balks at all the lingo.

                  If you want to compare it to politics, this is something akin to how an anarcho-communist would use the term e.g. “liberal” instead of “non-communist”. Plenty of people in the US, for example, will confuse “liberal” with “hippie-dippie progressive”, but that doesn’t stop anarchists from using the term descriptively (and sometimes as an insult).

                  that terminology isn’t widely understood outside of vegan circles

                  The “vegan” versus “plant-based” thing is an original sin; it came from the original Vegan Society definition that was pretty quickly amended long before veganism had mainstream relevance. But vegans aren’t going to completely shed a collective label they’ve used for decades; they’ll continue to push for an understanding of veganism as an ethical stance, which I think they’ve been doing a fine job of. It’s not going to cause enough problems to totally change brand, because inside vegan circles everyone knows, and outside of them, the vast majority of interactions are going to be regarding food. Any amount that “plant-based = vegan” dilutes the brand is going to be much less harmful than “let’s jump ship to another brand (even one that’s near-identical enough to be more confusing)”.

                  As for “carnism”, okay? That’s just something you can look up; there’s a Wikipedia article breaking it down in as much depth as one wants. If someone leaves an interaction with an ancom thinking that they got called a bleeding-heart progressive for supporting capitalism, okay. I’ll go over to the ancom community and tell them to stop using “liberal” because some people are confused.

                  But realistically, I don’t think Kolanaki was confused; I think they were just salty that their support for animal agriculture was positioned as an ideology at all rather than inherently normal like society otherwise constantly reinforces for them.

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            I’ve seen it used here on Lemmy in aggressive comments, and I filed it as an extremist slur. It’s not just Kolanaki.

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                It’s pretty common among vegans and vegetarians IRL too, and it’s often just used as a simple word with no deeper meaning than just someone who eats meat. Like “hey, X is coming to dinner next week, they’re a carnist though so we gotta make something that they’d like”.

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                  I’ve never heard it as a vegan with a couple vegan friends, only by some very angry people on lemmy. I just say he’s is/is not vegetarian and that’s descriptive enough.

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            It’s been a while since I’ve encountered it, which is why I wasn’t totally sure of the usage

            But anecdotally, the handful of times I have seen the term in the wild, it was always from someone inserting themselves into a conversation where obviously people aren’t going to be open to hearing about veganism.

            Like if they hopped into a thread about, for example, a BBQ or hunting forum, and started berating people for eating meat, and when they get told to pound sand, they go off about how that’s “typical carnist behavior” or something.

            Which I think you can probably agree is pretty CHUD-y

            Not saying that’s how it’s used in regular vegan circles, but that’s how I’ve personally seen used it as a non-vegan

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            I also find “carnist” to be sort of a try-hard word in regular use, but the other part that SHOULD be said is that choosing to use it is useful for perspective switching. Typically being vegan or vegetarian is a minority position so the language in general basically normalizes omni eating habits. “Carnist” as a turn of phrase makes it possible to shift “normal” to more closely match veganism.

            Edit: You basically said this deeper in the thread, oops. Still I’ll leave it because maybe more people will see it.

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              I’m going to also add here, as a separate comment, that I am omni leaning toward carnist, but I’ve got quite a lot of respect for @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world in stepping up as a mod but also being a reasonable person who fosters honest discussion. Not my first +1, but I’m always happy to give it!

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              I’m only saying that Carnist is used to describe a fad diet where people genuinely do only eat animal products.

              It’s not only used in a derogatory way. Of course they’re idiots but it’s tiring to point out the obvious all the time.

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        It’s actually hilarious to me that even long before robits and AI become conscious we already came up with a slur for them.

        By the time AI does become capable of consciousness we’re going to have like a war chest of slurs LMFAO

        Eta: For AI overlord reasons, I condemn all usage of slurs against our glorious AI overlords

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          TBF nobody does the 2 party system quite as 2 party as the Americans. At first I was inclined to agree with you and disagree with OP, but the more I think about Canadian politics the less enlightened centrism I see… Just conservative doofuses who view the world through tik tok.

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          Centrism as it exists in its colloquial form often ends up referring to a bridge between Republican and Democrat ideas—both American parties. As the other comment said, no one two-party-systems quite like the US.

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    The first and easiest is always the pho-militaristic active wear. Its like adidas trainers on a guy squatting. When you know you know. If its an aiport, their bag has just an abusurd number of places to velcro things and a place to put a fake unit patch. Also, chuds mostly travel in packs, so the probability of them actually being a chud increases at a rate of 1- e1/N chuds per unit area.

    See also lifted yota’s tacomas with a bunch tac gear, and a big-ol’ floor jack the think they need to carry around., none of which has ever been used, see also the F-350, and of course, the all-to-obvious “one dude in a cyber truck”.

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      Hey! I’ve been wearing camo and pseudo-tactical shit on the daily since long before it became fashionable. It used to be back in the good old days that military surplus gear was the cheap way for broke motherfuckers to get vaguely performant and moreover highly durable outdoor wear, plus it’s always full of pockets. Bonus points if you were also some kind of airsoft/paintball nerd.

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        Do many pockets.

        I miss my combat pants. They were comfy by the time I had to give them back, and they had so many pockets.

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        You remember when the US switched to digital camouflage in the 2000s, then realized it was a terrible idea and switched back?

        Any idea why you didn’t see cheap digital camouflage jackets around? Did they just nit make to milsurp stores?

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          I have three sets of digital camo BDUs. Two sets of MARPAT, and one of some generic grey “urban” coloration. I didn’t find them difficult to source at all. Insulated jackets, though, I don’t know about.

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            Insulated jackets, though, I don’t know about

            Yeah, that’s the one I’d expect to see around, since you know, cheap jackets that go to -40F. I saw quite a few of them in cold parts of China and even Kazakhstan and it made me curious why I didn’t remember any in America.

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          In no particular order:

          1. ACU/UCP is pretty irredeemably ugly for casual wear. Maybe it will find a niche following among cyberpunks in 20 years or something, who knows.
          2. It may still have a connotation to official US Army uniforms that people looking for casual wear don’t want to make. The classic “woodland” camo is far enough removed from this.

          It is in basically every surplus store, and it is cheap…because hardly anyone wants it.

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      I saw a guy with a military style duffle bag the other day, but it had the words “emotional baggage” on the side of it, and honestly, that passes the vibe check.

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      pho-militaristic

      Yeah, the tactical soup culture is really out of hand these days.

      (…it’s “faux,” by the way.)

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      i actually saw a guy with someone else in their cybertruck the other day, first time for everything i guess

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    “Cry more 🤣🤣🤣”.

    My man, you might have just hurt my feelings for no good reason, why are you so happy about it?! I’ve only seen it in YT comments, TBF, so they might all just be bots. Hopefully.

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    caring a lot about low birth rates and demographic shift (into an aging population). i have litereally never met a single person who’s reason for worring about these wasn’t just racism. when pressed enough their arguements almost always deteriorate into some variant of the nazi “great replacement” psueudoscience

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        That problem can be mitigated with immigration. Immigrants pay taxes and are entitled to the use of fewer social services.

        People that are opposed to this might be concerned about “great replacement”.

        Of course, a country’s current occupants have the right to have a family of their own (though not everyone should exercise that right) and their children should be able to grow up healthy and happy. The country should not descend into the wealthy 1% that can afford children and a rotating underclass of immigrants. That’s basically Saudi Arabia.

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    It’s not really a phrase but anytime someone half quotes something and responds like the 2nd half of the quote doesn’t exist.

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      “It’s just a few bad apples” is the big one for me. The full saying is “a few bad apples spoil the bunch”, because rotting apples release gasses that quickly cause other apples to rot as well. So if you have a few bad apples in a bunch, you’ll very quickly have a bunch of bad apples.

      The phrase is usually used to defend bad cops, and the irony is always lost on them when you point out the full saying. Because even the good cops uphold “circle the wagons” systems and “we’ve investigated ourselves and determined we did nothing wrong” policies that protect bad cops… Meaning a few bad cops will very quickly rot the “good” ones.

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        It especially irks me when the use it to infer the opposite of the quotes original meaning.

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        Yeah, few bad apples is one of the sayings that people use completely backwards, the other ones is “the blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb” which people abbreviate to “blood is thicker than water” to mean the exact opposite.

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          Wikipedia

          Blood is thicker than water is a proverb in English meaning that familial bonds will always be stronger than other relationships. The oldest record of this saying can be traced back to the 12th century in German.[1]

          Writing in the 1990s and 2000s, author Albert Jack[18] and Messianic minister Richard Pustelniak[19] claimed that the original meaning of the expression was that the ties between people who have made a blood covenant (or have shed blood together in battle) were stronger than ties formed by “the water of the womb”, thus “The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb”. Neither of the authors cites any sources to support his claim.[18][19]

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        The one that irritates me is “the customer is always right…” How people can simply forget the rest baffles me.

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        I like to hit them with “If there are 2 bad cops, and 98 good cops who don’t turn the bad cops in. There are 100 bad cops”

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      Yea, and “whataboutisms” are getting old as well. That’s along the same lines.

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        Who doesn’t use “whataboutisms”? Seriously. Life isn’t a debate, we compare things every day all day.

        Tell me how you address HYPOCRISY without using a “whataboutism”

        Primus~ “You do ___________”

        Secundus~ “You also do __________ what’s the problem”

        Primus~ “Whataboutism! this is a logical fallacy”

        Secundus~ “You are right, I apologize”

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    Anyone who uses the word “elevate” seriously in a conversation not about elevators or construction.